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Lack of ethics of long range hunting breakdown #7609901
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One of the best set of videos I've seen in a while. Their long but it's a guy who actually long range hunts is in that world and who honestly can explain all of it in detail breaking this down. I mean like it or not I think their some well put together videos on the subject




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Re: Lack of ethics of long range hunting breakdown [Re: Wolfdog91] #7609907
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Re: Lack of ethics of long range hunting breakdown [Re: Yes sir] #7609910
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Originally Posted by Yes sir


That guy makes valid points


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Re: Lack of ethics of long range hunting breakdown [Re: Wolfdog91] #7609913
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Why the edit Wolfie?

Re: Lack of ethics of long range hunting breakdown [Re: Wolfdog91] #7609916
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Plenty of decent shots these days. Cant find a decent hunter….. Archery is a big part of my life and the way it has gotten is out of control. Frankly tired of hearing about wheely bow shooters stretching it well past 60. The number of bulls i have heard of wounded in the past 5 or so years makes me shutter. All compounds. And if i hear one more person brag of shooting an antelope at 100 i might explode. No way you do that without nicking a few.

I was on another site and heard a guy mentioning in multiple posts of how he shot this and that animal and those were about his “only” shots of the year. You seem like a guy who likes to shoot. Some like to kill. But without practice it becomes dicey. Lots of folks reliant on as much technology as they can afford and carry.

Re: Lack of ethics of long range hunting breakdown [Re: mad_mike] #7609921
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Originally Posted by mad_mike
Why the edit Wolfie?


yes sir had just posted the link. I just embedded it so we can watch it in the post smile


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Re: Lack of ethics of long range hunting breakdown [Re: Yes sir] #7609923
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Originally Posted by Yes sir



U bet he would not think the natives shooting game from their boat under motor is not ethical. I have had an arrow deflect on a limb shooting a deer at 15 yard and had them take a step as well.

All that compounds with distance time of flight it the biggest along with finding the blood trail if shot was a long way away. Heck that hard inside a 100 yards sometimes.

Ethics are subjective. Want ethical be a vegetarian. Or only get meat from the store that was killed at point blank.
Problems come in when people try to tell other people to do things their way.

Stick bow guy don't like compound guys neither like the x bow guys for example.

Hunt how you like within your ability and the law. To much division out there for this type stuff.

Re: Lack of ethics of long range hunting breakdown [Re: D.T.] #7609925
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Originally Posted by D.T.
Plenty of decent shots these days. Cant find a decent hunter….. Archery is a big part of my life and the way it has gotten is out of control. Frankly tired of hearing about wheely bow shooters stretching it well past 60. The number of bulls i have heard of wounded in the past 5 or so years makes me shutter. All compounds. And if i hear one more person brag of shooting an antelope at 100 i might explode. No way you do that without nicking a few.

I was on another site and heard a guy mentioning in multiple posts of how he shot this and that animal and those were about his “only” shots of the year. You seem like a guy who likes to shoot. Some like to kill. But without practice it becomes dicey. Lots of folks reliant on as much technology as they can afford and carry.


You make good points. Honestly I'm 100% of the opinion that people really need to understand their limits and practice. The stuff I see at the range all the time makes me cringe. Lots of hitting a box @50 yd so it should hit right at 100yd or "good nuff" . Talk to guys and they will brag about how they don't "waste ammo" they get their guns bore sighted and if they can get semi close on paper @50yd it should be close enough @100yd for hunting. Everytime I hear that all I can think is " God I hope this guy doesn't try to get into long distance". Lotta guys Also don't seem to know anything about where to shoot an animal either. They just know their dad said always shoot them in behind the shoulder and that's it.
Personally I shoot and reload because it all boils down to being able to know I can put a bullet on. An animal and drop him DOA every time


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Re: Lack of ethics of long range hunting breakdown [Re: Wolfdog91] #7609927
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Most of my shots have been under 50 yards 90% under 120. Coyotes out to 510.

Never shot a deer over 310 but many would say it was not ethical to do with a muzzle loader but I did. One shot it dropped I watched it go down in the scope. I also shot that gun at further ranges just playing and not intending for hunting. But I knew my abilities and the guns so after I was in a wreck and on a walker during hunting season I had a permit I could shoot then from the truck but that didn't seem right to me. So I walked on my walker about 20 yards from the truck and sat down in the field.

Now I had little interest in hunting or living for that matter at this point in time. ( My son was killed in the same wreck that put me on the walker) I was only out to take my brother in law to hunt before he shipped out to Afghanistan. When some deer showed up wit a good back stop at a range I was comfortable with I shot one it dropped. That shot would not have been ethical for most but it was for me. My brother in law shot a nice 13 pointer in the spot I told him to go to the same night.

There are idiots hunting with every weapon. Heard a guy once get I ng ready to walk into the field ask his buddy how to load his gun since he just bought it the night before. Nothing I could do but shake my head and hunt a different location. Didn't want to be in the same area with that guy.

Re: Lack of ethics of long range hunting breakdown [Re: Wolfdog91] #7609938
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Why worry about how somebody else hunts? Unless the guy is launching bullets toward a house or livestock or something it aint any of your business. Got enough non hunters out there trying to impose their will on us. No need to help them do it. Without hunting we lose the 2nd. Just not that many competition shooters out there. Most gun owners hunt.


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Re: Lack of ethics of long range hunting breakdown [Re: danny clifton] #7609974
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Why worry about how somebody else hunts?


Because what one does reflects on all of us.

Your OK with taking bad shots and wounding animals?

If we don't Police ourselves than we give others more reasons to.

I know that are those that want to police us out of existence but there are also those that sit on the fence. Lets not push the fence sitters over to the opposite side. Lets get them on our side.

Re: Lack of ethics of long range hunting breakdown [Re: danny clifton] #7609979
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Why worry about how somebody else hunts? Unless the guy is launching bullets toward a house or livestock or something it aint any of your business. Got enough non hunters out there trying to impose their will on us. No need to help them do it. Without hunting we lose the 2nd. Just not that many competition shooters out there. Most gun owners hunt.


I generally agree with this. I don't watch outdoor TV because I would spend 28 minutes of a 30 minute show annoyed. Ego, greed, lack of skill, ignorance are rightfully judged quietly. However, I don't get to dictate that everyone hunt the way I prefer. Now at my place, it will be done my way. But my dictatorship stops at my fence.


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Re: Lack of ethics of long range hunting breakdown [Re: Dirty D] #7610002
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Originally Posted by Dirty D
Originally Posted by danny clifton
Why worry about how somebody else hunts?


Because what one does reflects on all of us.

Your OK with taking bad shots and wounding animals?

If we don't Police ourselves than we give others more reasons to.

I know that are those that want to police us out of existence but there are also those that sit on the fence. Lets not push the fence sitters over to the opposite side. Lets get them on our side.

I can see both of you guys points but I'm a little more on DD side. Bad hunters or trappers definitely have consequences for other hunters and trappers. I've experienced first hand when asking permission.

Re: Lack of ethics of long range hunting breakdown [Re: Wolfdog91] #7610003
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Originally Posted by Wolfdog91
Originally Posted by mad_mike
Why the edit Wolfie?


yes sir had just posted the link. I just embedded it so we can watch it in the post smile

Thanks Wolfy

Re: Lack of ethics of long range hunting breakdown [Re: Wolfdog91] #7610010
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I consider 40 yds long range with my bow

Re: Lack of ethics of long range hunting breakdown [Re: Wolfdog91] #7610014
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I am proficient out to 20 yds. with a bow, my son 60yds. One mans 100 yds is another mans 1000yds. Most people shoot to their ability. I have stretched a shot or two with positive results.

Re: Lack of ethics of long range hunting breakdown [Re: Wolfdog91] #7610023
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My opinion is that ethical concerns should be handled privately. I see no good coming from some people's desire to create conflict and air dirty laundry in public. It is usually done by people needing to feel ethically superior to others regardless of the impression it gives to outsiders about our sports.

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Originally Posted by corky
My opinion is that ethical concerns should be handled privately. I see no good coming from some people's desire to create conflict and air dirty laundry in public. It is usually done by people needing to feel ethically superior to others regardless of the impression it gives to outsiders about our sports.

If one thought long range hunting was unethical how would u propose to handle it privately? I'm not tracking on what you mean privately, if you could clarify I'd appreciate it.

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Originally Posted by Wolfdog91
Originally Posted by mad_mike
Why the edit Wolfie?


yes sir had just posted the link. I just embedded it so we can watch it in the post smile

Gotcha.


My take on the subject is you do what you want, how you want and as long as it is lawful I am good with it.

For me, I will not shoot at an animal past 400 yards. I know my limitations in marksmanship and it’s simply not something I care to put my time and money into. For those that want to shoot animals at long ranges, have at it.

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When I bowhunted a lot, I would practice out to 70 yards but never shot an animal past 30 yards. The vast majority of shots were much less than 25 yards.

I now mostly carry a rifle. I practice long distances but have never shot a deer past 250 yards. 300 yards is my max and even though I can do it, I don't like it. The vast majority of shots are much less than 150 yards. Disclaimer, I'll take a longer shot at hogs.

These are/were my choices.


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