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Using Tannerite to Blow Beaver Dams...
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07/09/22 06:20 PM
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Anyone used?
How much to use?
Placement for best breach?
Success vs cost?
I'm already aware of the safety concerns (I've seen the many YT videos....I'm not wanting to blow up refrigerators) and I'm familiar with the federal legalities of transporting it mixed and using it commercially, so no need to post any parental-type concerns.
I would be using it commercially so will pursue federal permit if I decide to use it. Timber Company has advised they approve of its use as we can't get heavy equipment to many of the dams in these backwater swamps.
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Re: Using Tannerite to Blow Beaver Dams...
[Re: Donnersurvivor]
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07/09/22 06:37 PM
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Someone was posting the other day about making it yourself cheap. May be worth looking into if you're needing a lot of it. a friend of mine who fancied them-self a chemist was doing just that and blew themselves up had to have their intestines put back in had crab looking hands for a while a whole bunch of surgeries later looks almost normal again was mixing it on the tailgate of the truck at the gravel pit
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Re: Using Tannerite to Blow Beaver Dams...
[Re: Donnersurvivor]
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07/09/22 06:54 PM
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Someone was posting the other day about making it yourself cheap. May be worth looking into if you're needing a lot of it. Doubt I'll do that. Will buy the actual Tannerite or another commercially-made brand.
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Re: Using Tannerite to Blow Beaver Dams...
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07/09/22 06:55 PM
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Someone was posting the other day about making it yourself cheap. May be worth looking into if you're needing a lot of it. a friend of mine who fancied them-self a chemist was doing just that and blew themselves up had to have their intestines put back in had crab looking hands for a while a whole bunch of surgeries later looks almost normal again was mixing it on the tailgate of the truck at the gravel pit Your friend, the chemist, was messing around with components other than the 2 in Tannerite.
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Re: Using Tannerite to Blow Beaver Dams...
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Was thinking a 4 inch (maybe 6 inch) pvc pipe about 3 feet in length, capped on one end....driven down into dam center. Tannerite mixed and poured into pipe and capped. Leave only a few inches of pipe visibly exposed for target.
Using this method would eliminate me having to dig into a snakey dam to place a container. If I had to do that I just as well go ahead an tater rake a large breach.
With this pipe method I just walk/wade to dam center and tap pipe into dam, fill pipe, cap it, walk many yds away, get behind a large tree, and shoot.
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Re: Using Tannerite to Blow Beaver Dams...
[Re: Swamp Wolf]
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07/09/22 07:03 PM
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I’ve got a few dams that a customer wants opened. I’ve been looking for the same answers to the questions you asked. Anyone used?
How much to use?
Placement for best breach?
Success vs cost?
I'm already aware of the safety concerns (I've seen the many YT videos....I'm not wanting to blow up refrigerators) and I'm familiar with the federal legalities of transporting it mixed and using it commercially, so no need to post any parental-type concerns.
I would be using it commercially so will pursue federal permit if I decide to use it. Timber Company has advised they approve of its use as we can't get heavy equipment to many of the dams in these backwater swamps.
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Re: Using Tannerite to Blow Beaver Dams...
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07/09/22 07:07 PM
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Was thinking a 4 inch (maybe 6 inch) pvc pipe about 3 feet in length, capped on one end....driven down into dam center. Tannerite mixed and poured into pipe and capped. Leave only a few inches of pipe visibly exposed for target. Use another device to "punch" the hole in the dam then push your pipe or other delivery device in that hole The dam is so unpredictable you might need to attempt a couple times to avoid large debri, which may damage your explosive delivery pipe.
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Re: Using Tannerite to Blow Beaver Dams...
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07/09/22 07:07 PM
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Was thinking a 4 inch (maybe 6 inch) pvc pipe about 3 feet in length, capped on one end....driven down into dam center. Tannerite mixed and poured into pipe and capped. Leave only a few inches of pipe visibly exposed for target. Use another device to "punch" the hole in the dam then push your pipe or other delivery device in that hole The dam is so unpredictable you might need to attempt a couple times to avoid large debri, which may damage your explosive delivery pipe. True^^^
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Re: Using Tannerite to Blow Beaver Dams...
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07/09/22 07:08 PM
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a friend of mine who fancied them-self a chemist was doing just that and blew themselves up
had to have their intestines put back in
had crab looking hands for a while
a whole bunch of surgeries later looks almost normal again
was mixing it on the tailgate of the truck at the gravel pit
Your friend, the chemist, was messing around with components other than the 2 in Tannerite. very possibly but they though they had it close enough and tannerite was what they were working at making so the warning of trying to make your own you really want to know what your mixing they were lucky their grandson was there to load them in the bed of the side by side and drive them out of the gravel pit deep in the woods and meet the ambulance at the road
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Re: Using Tannerite to Blow Beaver Dams...
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07/09/22 07:09 PM
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I have sent you a message on it Swamp… when a guy runs out of C4 ya gotta make do. Kidding, I think.
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Re: Using Tannerite to Blow Beaver Dams...
[Re: Swamp Wolf]
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07/09/22 07:20 PM
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We used pillow packs on the RR.
Cant use explosives anymore.Letting large amounts of water wash downstream all at once is against DFO regulations nowadays.Same with heavy equipment-have to let the water down gradually.
Pillow pack,stumping powder and amex from the mines was used a lot back in the day for all kinds of stuff.
For dams it was tied to the bottom of a long pole and shoved down into the dam base in a reamed out hole.
Last edited by Boco; 07/09/22 07:24 PM.
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Re: Using Tannerite to Blow Beaver Dams...
[Re: Donnersurvivor]
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07/09/22 07:21 PM
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Someone was posting the other day about making it yourself cheap. May be worth looking into if you're needing a lot of it. My cost, plus an extra fee for this service, will be passed along to landowner, so $$ is no real concern.
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Re: Using Tannerite to Blow Beaver Dams...
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07/09/22 07:22 PM
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Get yourself certified and I think you will find that there is a lot better and more economical materials available to get the job done. You will most likely need to upgrade your insurance too.
Not sure how it is in your neck of the swamp but just applying for a permit to use explosives in the county I live in is more expensive that the actual material and labor to do it in many cases. And the rules and regs are anything but straight forward and clear. And if the permit is denied, you lose the application fee.
Have you considered finding someone already certified to sub out that part of the job? Depending on the work load, that may be a viable alternative.
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Re: Using Tannerite to Blow Beaver Dams...
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07/09/22 07:27 PM
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We used pillow packs on the RR.
Cant use explosives anymore.Letting large amounts of water wash downstream all at once is against DFO regulations nowadays.Same with heavy equipment-have to let the water down gradually.
Pillow pack,stumping powder and amex from the mines was used a lot back in the day for all kinds of stuff. I've had the necessity of a slow water release situation a couple times, especially to save road culverts. Every situation is different, but most of the beaver problems here a large and immediate breach can be safely done. A lot of my beaver work is to save drowning pine timber.
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Re: Using Tannerite to Blow Beaver Dams...
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07/09/22 07:35 PM
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Get yourself certified and I think you will find that there is a lot better and more economical materials available to get the job done. You will most likely need to upgrade your insurance too.
Not sure how it is in your neck of the swamp but just applying for a permit to use explosives in the county I live in is more expensive that the actual material and labor to do it in many cases. And the rules and regs are anything but straight forward and clear. And if the permit is denied, you lose the application fee.
Have you considered finding someone already certified to sub out that part of the job? Depending on the work load, that may be a viable alternative. I haven't checked on the explosives permit due to exactly what you described....permit costs, higher insurance, complex regs, safety concerns, etc. Plus, I care not to handle higher grade explosives, detonators, etc, ....just not my thing. Cost of Tannerite is not an issue for me as I'd probably use it less that 10 times and customer pays all that. I know of no one around here to sub that out. A certified explosives guy probably won't like walking/wading/toting that gear into some of the places I go to get to the beavers.
Last edited by Swamp Wolf; 07/09/22 07:36 PM.
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