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Re: #4 jumps for beaver [Re: kytrapper] #7627284 07/15/22 01:00 PM 07/15/22 01:00 PM
Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 2,479 Idaho B bearcat2 trapper
bearcat2 trapper B Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 2,479 Idaho	Sorry, see you are Michigan and I know footholds are legal there. So how did they outlaw jumps?

Re: #4 jumps for beaver [Re: kytrapper] #7627320 07/15/22 01:41 PM 07/15/22 01:41 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,851 Wisconsin T The Beav trapper
The Beav trapper T Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,851 Wisconsin	The 14 has teeth. The forum Know It All according to Muskrat

Re: #4 jumps for beaver [Re: kytrapper] #7627606 07/15/22 09:17 PM 07/15/22 09:17 PM
Joined: May 2011 Posts: 2,494 Garden,Michigan B Buck (Zandra) trapper
Buck (Zandra) trapper B Joined: May 2011 Posts: 2,494 Garden,Michigan	They didn't outlaw jumps,they outlawed any trap with teeth Last edited by Buck (Zandra); 07/15/22 09:18 PM. Buck(formely known as Zandra)

Re: #4 jumps for beaver [Re: kytrapper] #7627800 07/16/22 07:19 AM 07/16/22 07:19 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,883 SE Kentucky K kytrapper OP trapper
kytrapper OP trapper K Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,883 SE Kentucky	The PIT pans may help solve those empty fired traps. Do you guys think making 14’s out of #4 jumps puts them right up there with the 14’s? I know Ed Medvetz really likes the #3 jumps with the pans. I know there’s much better traps out there now. I really like using the 3N’s on land here and the old big jumps are nostalgiac.

Re: #4 jumps for beaver [Re: kytrapper] #7627820 07/16/22 08:17 AM 07/16/22 08:17 AM
Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 2,479 Idaho B bearcat2 trapper
bearcat2 trapper B Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 2,479 Idaho	Duh! I know the 14 has teeth, I just had a brianfart and forgot that. Personally I like a closed jawed trap with teeth for beaver, but realize teeth aren't legal in most states. If you were just looking for a user trap a minute with a grinder would take the teeth off a 14.

Re: #4 jumps for beaver [Re: kytrapper] #7628084 07/16/22 01:49 PM 07/16/22 01:49 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,851 Wisconsin T The Beav trapper
The Beav trapper T Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,851 Wisconsin	The teeth are what makes the 14 a great beaver trap. Remove the teeth and you have a plain #4 jump which Isn't a great beaver trap. And If you remove the teeth your removing the antic value. The forum Know It All according to Muskrat

Re: #4 jumps for beaver [Re: kytrapper] #7628246 07/16/22 06:03 PM 07/16/22 06:03 PM
Joined: May 2011 Posts: 2,494 Garden,Michigan B Buck (Zandra) trapper
Buck (Zandra) trapper B Joined: May 2011 Posts: 2,494 Garden,Michigan	X2 Buck(formely known as Zandra)

Re: #4 jumps for beaver [Re: The Beav] #7630160 07/19/22 08:06 AM 07/19/22 08:06 AM
Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 2,479 Idaho B bearcat2 trapper
bearcat2 trapper B Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 2,479 Idaho	Originally Posted by The Beav The teeth are what makes the 14 a great beaver trap. Remove the teeth and you have a plain #4 jump which Isn't a great beaver trap. And If you remove the teeth your removing the antic value. This is why all my old dbls beaver traps have teeth welded or brazed on them. So did the jumps I had, still got a couple jumps hanging out in the shed, but they were plain ol #4s with teeth put on later. The only #14 I own is a Newhouse hanging on my wall. Dad owned two of them and a #41, they caught a lot of beaver but after he got the #41 stolen the Newhouses got relegated to wallhangers.

Re: #4 jumps for beaver [Re: kytrapper] #7630235 07/19/22 10:11 AM 07/19/22 10:11 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,851 Wisconsin T The Beav trapper
The Beav trapper T Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,851 Wisconsin	I got some 114s but they have never been In the water or ground. Back when I first started beaver trapping I had some #4 Herters and I just welded In some fence staples for teeth.Those were some scary traps but they caught and held beaver. The forum Know It All according to Muskrat

Re: #4 jumps for beaver [Re: kytrapper] #7630282 07/19/22 11:32 AM 07/19/22 11:32 AM
Joined: May 2011 Posts: 2,494 Garden,Michigan B Buck (Zandra) trapper
Buck (Zandra) trapper B Joined: May 2011 Posts: 2,494 Garden,Michigan	As strong as some of the No.4 Herters were that I owned I'm not sure teeth were needed! Buck(formely known as Zandra)

Re: #4 jumps for beaver [Re: kytrapper] #7630312 07/19/22 12:28 PM 07/19/22 12:28 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,851 Wisconsin T The Beav trapper
The Beav trapper T Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,851 Wisconsin	Probably right but It worked. The forum Know It All according to Muskrat

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