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Re: #1 reason for so much divorce
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07/19/22 10:40 AM
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So from what I read here is the weemens fault . Makes sense. if there were less woman, there would be less divorces. I'll try and explain that to the admiral. .....Wish me luck Well you could try to blaim it all on Eve. If you don't want to look at Adam not doing his job protecting her.
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Re: #1 reason for so much divorce
[Re: danny clifton]
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07/19/22 10:41 AM
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The China thing changed the world as we knew it, especially in our relationships!
It brought us “it’s okay to lie Biden”
Too much time locked up together finding out you didn’t know the other person you married!
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Re: #1 reason for so much divorce
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07/19/22 10:56 AM
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I think lack of faith has led to a great number of divorces - lack of faith and failure to walk even remotely how the Bible says. Mathematical statistics prove that non religious get divorced at a far lesser rate then pretty much every major religion, about a tenth as often as Catholics. You can’t blame a lack of faith and be accurate on this one.
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Re: #1 reason for so much divorce
[Re: danny clifton]
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07/19/22 10:57 AM
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Every marriage has its own story, so does every divorce. There are many, many little reasons that divorce is so common, but I think all of them boil down to the corruption of the human heart and the lies that we believe are true. For the non-religious here, you may not use those words, but it seems obvious that all of us sense that something is deeply wrong with what we see going on in our culture and society. We also need to remember that we ARE today's culture and society. We may not be a representative sample of the whole of America, but certainly are a big part of it. These issues aren't separate from us. So what are we going to do about it? It's easy to provide simple commentaries here on whatever hot-button issues may be related, but in the end, we're talking about what it means to be human, what it looks like to do that well, and how to make that happen. How do you change a human heart?
For the religious types, I would find immense pleasure in talking about marriage with you all. We could spend a semester on Genesis 3 and Ephesians 5. We'd learn a lot, and I think most of you would be surprised at the message, and I'm sure I could learn a lot from you. Some of you have been married longer than I've been breathing. I don't know how we could effectively do that here. If only you all lived down the road. We could do dinner.
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Re: #1 reason for so much divorce
[Re: jht]
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07/19/22 11:37 AM
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Every marriage has its own story, so does every divorce. There are many, many little reasons that divorce is so common, but I think all of them boil down to the corruption of the human heart and the lies that we believe are true. For the non-religious here, you may not use those words, but it seems obvious that all of us sense that something is deeply wrong with what we see going on in our culture and society. We also need to remember that we ARE today's culture and society. We may not be a representative sample of the whole of America, but certainly are a big part of it. These issues aren't separate from us. So what are we going to do about it? It's easy to provide simple commentaries here on whatever hot-button issues may be related, but in the end, we're talking about what it means to be human, what it looks like to do that well, and how to make that happen. How do you change a human heart?
For the religious types, I would find immense pleasure in talking about marriage with you all. We could spend a semester on Genesis 3 and Ephesians 5. We'd learn a lot, and I think most of you would be surprised at the message, and I'm sure I could learn a lot from you. Some of you have been married longer than I've been breathing. I don't know how we could effectively do that here. If only you all lived down the road. We could do dinner. Good post jht. The Bible is clear in its instructions of the "one-flesh" union between one man and one woman and its also clear that divorce is a human effort and not of God. Genesis 2:24 is paramount to realize - and believe in - as it points to the same union between the bridegroom Jesus and His bride, the Church of believers. Sadly, we do not live in a time when Genesis 2:24 is read much anymore at marriages, but I read it every time and will not stop because God is the focus of the praise, not some $20,000 wedding recital. You are correct 100% when you say we are all in this together. As far as Ephesians 5, the most crossed arms by the elder ladies in the back of our church was when I preached on Ephesians 5. Far too many women today, and that includes women in our churches, WILL NOT be lead by a man, even as the Bible instructs it. That's called..... pride.... a sin which we all have. Pride is at the heart of much of the brokenness and we know where to seek refuge from it. That includes divorce. Blessings, Mark
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Re: #1 reason for so much divorce
[Re: danny clifton]
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07/19/22 11:43 AM
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When I met my wife she told me she voted for Bill Clinton. When I asked her why she giggled and said he was better looking. True story. Now she pays attention to what they are doing. I think a lot of YOUNG women vote that way. As they mature it changes some but not a lot. Women will talk about what candidates wear at a debate with a lot more enthusiasm than discussions about what was said. I knew a young lady who said the way she determined who to vote for was to wait to see who was losing and that's the one she always voted for. 
With the US so divided, I'm just glad to be on the side that believes in God, has the most guns, and knows which restroom to use.
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Re: #1 reason for so much divorce
[Re: danny clifton]
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07/19/22 11:44 AM
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Come to think of it, how many pronouns and genders listed in this vital verse of God's Word for us is now under attack?
I'd say.... ALL of it.
Evil knows where righteousness resides and works overtime all the time to thwart what God has planned for all of us, so of course the legions, which are many >>> lie, lie, lie.
For this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother, and be joined to his wife; and they shall become one flesh Genesis 2:24.
Blessings,
Mark
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Re: #1 reason for so much divorce
[Re: danny clifton]
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07/19/22 11:47 AM
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Divorce is kind of like a corpse on the road, remove the body out of sight and the traffic continues to flow.
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Re: #1 reason for so much divorce
[Re: danny clifton]
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07/19/22 11:50 AM
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Most divorces I see are from cheating. Not because someone is lazy or spoiled. And if 80% are women you can probably guess it was the man cheating.
My wife was working when we got married. When kids came along she quit at my request, plus we had more money with her NOT working than we did when she did work. When the kids got older she went back to work. Now she’s a stay at home mom/grandmother.
Most Southern women I know whether they work or not, still clean, cook, and manage to take care of the kids. Husbands provide for the family monetarily and by helping out around the house as well. We cook, help clean, and raise the kids.
Unfortunately I know of more sorry men than I do women.
Get your hearts right and talk to your mate and things always seem to work out. Not sure how many people understand the dynamics of a family, but your spouse comes first. Not your kids. Think that also contributes to divorces. And I know of women that tend to put their children first and husband second…that alone produces problems. Keep each other happy, and your kids will follow along when they get older and marry.
Ok, y’all can go back to blaming the other sex now.
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Re: #1 reason for so much divorce
[Re: danny clifton]
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07/19/22 12:01 PM
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God gives us the proper priorities to live by. THIS is a big topic of counseling and ministry efforts by the way. Putting proper things first for maximum healthy outcomes.
Proper order;
God
Spouse
Children
General community
Greater world
But 21st century America has decided that the order is;
God
Children
Spouse
It's upside down and so are many people's lives as they pop another pill, or make another trip to the liquor store, and then post on FB that all is well. Hardly.
We're running out of DSM categories for mental health issues.
We're running short on pastors, doctors, nurses, and therapists to threat all these people who claim all is well as they seek help.
Blessings,
Mark
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Re: #1 reason for so much divorce
[Re: danny clifton]
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07/19/22 12:07 PM
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I would say it's the decay of morals with a lack of God and Christian values. Quit reading Yahoo. It will rot your brain.
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Re: #1 reason for so much divorce
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07/19/22 12:29 PM
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I would say it's the decay of morals with a lack of God and Christian values. Quit reading Yahoo. It will rot your brain. Which group has a higher divorce rate, atheists or religious?
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Re: #1 reason for so much divorce
[Re: danny clifton]
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07/19/22 12:43 PM
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It’s not even close Hippie, the religious get divorced way more frequently.
But I think you already knew that.
Your take on opportunity as result of a more inter mindless society is likely very accurate.
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Re: #1 reason for so much divorce
[Re: rvsask]
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07/19/22 01:00 PM
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It’s not even close Hippie, the religious get divorced way more frequently.
But I think you already knew that.
Your take on opportunity as result of a more inter mindless society is likely very accurate. Not accurate but it sounds punchy. The religious are less likely to cohabitate, which has been shown to increase the odds of divorce once married. That said, the Western model of Christianity is overweighted in its salvific (salvation) theology, over which God's goodness and grace is poured. Westerners like love, compassion, and mercy but we'll head for the exits when a pastor starts preaching about righteous living or divine judgment. Blessings, Mark
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