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Re: Ageing steaks [Re: Nittany Lion] #7634268
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Originally Posted by Nittany Lion
Does aging a steak make it more tender? I would like to find a fool proof way of tenderizing a steak such as a rib eye or New York Strip, or for that matter any steak. I get sick and tired of buying an expensive steak and then grilling it only to have it tough.


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Ive never tried it but a friend swears by this: take your steak and cover both sides with sea salt let it set overnight in fridge next evening wash all the salt off and cook. If you try it please let us no the results.

Re: Ageing steaks [Re: Michael Lippold] #7634274
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Most grocery store meat grades select unless its marked choice its going to be select the grass fed beef if uts finished on grass won't have the fat in it and will probably be an older animal as they grow slower then grain fed finished beef.

Grill or broil as hot and fast as you can. Buy a choice rib steak not grass fed and try it this way

https://www.certifiedangusbeef.com/recipes/Classic-Pan-Seared-Ribeye-Steak

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Originally Posted by nate
Originally Posted by Nittany Lion
Does aging a steak make it more tender? I would like to find a fool proof way of tenderizing a steak such as a rib eye or New York Strip, or for that matter any steak. I get sick and tired of buying an expensive steak and then grilling it only to have it tough.


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Ive never tried it but a friend swears by this: take your steak and cover both sides with sea salt let it set overnight in fridge next evening wash all the salt off and cook. If you try it please let us no the results.


Salt will pull moisture out of the steak it will start to reabsorbe moisture at some point and can draw favor back into the meat but if cooked at the wrong time can result in dry meat.

Re: Ageing steaks [Re: Leftlane] #7634290
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Originally Posted by Leftlane
A fridge in good working order is perfect to dry age beef. Temps need to be below 38 and above 33 degrees and I think 2 weeks is the min. I like 21 days when it is my own and i know the exact age but the smell intimidates a lot of ppl.

Dry aged beef or venison has lots of flavor, just use your fav rub and sear it at high temps.

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I do a lot of game meats which are vacuum sealed. Placed i the back of the fridge for a week to 10 days. No seasoning until its in the pan ( just salt and butter and maybe onion powder.


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Re: Ageing steaks [Re: Michael Lippold] #7634317
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Some meat is just not tender no matter what you do. I have never aged any beef I bought from the grocery. I take mine and put it in a zip lok bag and add some Dales Seasoning and mash the seasoning into the steak with my finger tips for a couple minutes then let it set 10 minutes max.(Dales is very salty do not marinate to long on any meat.).take it out and throw it on the grill.

Re: Ageing steaks [Re: Michael Lippold] #7634323
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I just spent the last half hour reading about dry aging beef. If you’re serious you might want to do the same. Number one rule was don’t use a fridge with other foods in it.

https://jesspryles.com/

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Re: Ageing steaks [Re: Michael Lippold] #7634330
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I buy my beef by the half from the locker plant, they hang it for 10-14 days. So I guess there is no point in ageing it longs In the fridge after I thaw them out. I just assumed you fellas that had mentioned it before we’re pulling farm raised beef from the freezer and ageing it in the fridge. I never buy steak at the grocery stir

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Ask to see it before you buy it, if they wont let you walk. You should be able to look at the face of the rib steak and the new york where they are separated ot break the quarters. When they get graded its normally 2 to 3 day after slaughter, they quarters are separated by hand saw and knife the the usda grader compairs the amount of marbling in the rib eye to photos to determine the correct grade. You can probably find those pics online to compare to what they are trying to sell you. The more fat the more flavor the more tender..
Just about any beef can be tender they just need to be gainging fat not just weight at time of slaughter.

Re: Ageing steaks [Re: Michael Lippold] #7634358
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I think this is one of the many things that are ridiculous. I had a buddy about 15 years ago that got four Holstein bull calves for free. He pasture raised them for 19 months, along with hay. Took them to the slaughter house and when he got the meat home he called me for a BBQ. We threw them steaks on the open fire grill and they were the best tasting steak's ever. John Wayne is shaking his head lol. Y'all want some organic green tea and gluten free skones to go with your steak??? grin


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Re: Ageing steaks [Re: Nittany Lion] #7634360
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Originally Posted by Nittany Lion
Does aging a steak make it more tender? I would like to find a fool proof way of tenderizing a steak such as a rib eye or New York Strip, or for that matter any steak. I get sick and tired of buying an expensive steak and then grilling it only to have it tough.

You have to start with the right cut of meat to begin with.A lot of folks think that just because they are buying a Rib Eye,,or a New York Strip,,they are getting a great cut of meat.There are many different Grades of those cuts of Beef.Prime and Choice are the top two grades.There are 6 or 7 grades below that,,of those same cuts of Beef.Start out with a Prime,,or Choice,,and you would almost have to try to make that cut not tender.Start out with one of the lower grades,,and there is not much you can do to make it tender,,except gring it into burger,,or run it through a cuber.You cant start out with a "Commercial Grade" Rib Eye,,and turn it into a " U.S.Prime" Rib Eye,,no matter how much you try to tenderise it.All that being said,,,yes,,you can help tenderise Beef by properly aging it a bit.

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Re: Ageing steaks [Re: Michael Lippold] #7634361
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Dry aging beef should be right down Nessie’s alley. One article compared it to sourdough bread. I look forward to seeing his results.

https://jesspryles.com/


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Re: Ageing steaks [Re: Michael Lippold] #7634395
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I once paid an excessive amount of money for an "aged" ribeye at a high dollar steakhouse in Kansas City. Kinda makes me think of what a gangrenous thigh might taste like. I spit it out and spent the remainder of the evening hungry. My cousin raises beef cattle in Nebraska. The processor they use hang their meat 7-10 days. Best beef I have ever put in my mouth. I ordered another half today for November pick up. If anyone is interested, he can mebbe get you on the docket if you can travel to Decatur NE to pick it up. I didn't even ask the price, the Ribeyes melt in your mouth!


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Re: Ageing steaks [Re: Michael Lippold] #7634402
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Nittany, the “grass fed” might be a culprit to your tougher steaks. They take longer to get to slaughter weight, so will be older and a little tougher. If you’re shopping at a Food Lion or Acme (or similar grocer), try usda choice. Look for a thick cut, it’ll be a few more bucks but well worth it. A well marbled ribeye is hard to beat. We normally get meats from a week known local butcher, who also has a shop he sells from. But you can get good steaks from the grocery too! Just not a fan of grass fed myself.

And for the aging, I let the butcher do that part. A dry rub, rest the steak until room temperature, then onto the grill cool

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I like a steak with good flavour,I dont really care if it is tender or tough-I still got some teeth left.
I really like the taste of a blade steak.

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Re: Ageing steaks [Re: Catch22] #7634628
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Originally Posted by Catch22
I age mine from the fridge to the grill.

Same here. I age my deer and hogs for about five days on ice. I pick my steaks with a lot of marbling.

Re: Ageing steaks [Re: upstateNY] #7634649
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Originally Posted by upstateNY
Originally Posted by Nittany Lion
Does aging a steak make it more tender? I would like to find a fool proof way of tenderizing a steak such as a rib eye or New York Strip, or for that matter any steak. I get sick and tired of buying an expensive steak and then grilling it only to have it tough.

You have to start with the right cut of meat to begin with.A lot of folks think that just because they are buying a Rib Eye,,or a New York Strip,,they are getting a great cut of meat.There are many different Grades of those cuts of Beef.Select and Choice are the top two grades.There are 6 or 7 grades below that,,of those same cuts of Beef.Start out with a Select,,or Choice,,and you would almost have to try to make that cut not tender.Start out with one of the lower grades,,and there is not much you can do to make it tender,,except gring it into burger,,or run it through a cuber.You cant start out with a "Commercial Grade" Rib Eye,,and turn it into a " U.S.Prime" Rib Eye,,no matter how much you try to tenderise it.All that being said,,,yes,,you can help tenderise Beef by properly aging it a bit.

Prime is top. Choice is good. Select is getting marginal on quality.

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Originally Posted by Leftlane
If you are using the right butcher they can hang it for you before freezing

Yup, I thought everyone knew that real beef has been hung for ten days prior to cutting, I Thaw, dry age for 3-5 days, Then cook when steak is at room temp.

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Yes sir,,you are correct.I accidently said SELECT,,when I should have said Prime.I fixed it though.If I cant get a Prime or Choice Grade,,I wont buy the steaks. grin

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Since I see it mentioned several times and I have read it before, why do you want the steaks to get to room temperature before grilling. I’m not a big chef or grill master I just enjoy a good steak

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Originally Posted by upstateNY

You have to start with the right cut of meat to begin with.A lot of folks think that just because they are buying a Rib Eye,,or a New York Strip,,they are getting a great cut of meat.There are many different Grades of those cuts of Beef.Prime and Choice are the top two grades.There are 6 or 7 grades below that,,of those same cuts of Beef.Start out with a
Prime,,or Choice,,and you would almost have to try to make that cut not tender.Start out with one of the lower grades,,and there is not much you can do to make it tender,,except gring it into burger,,or run it through a cuber.You cant start out with a "Commercial Grade" Rib Eye,,and turn it into a " U.S.Prime" Rib Eye,,no matter how much you try to tenderise it.All that being said,,,yes,,you can help tenderise Beef by properly aging it a bit.

Prime is top. Choice is good. Select is getting marginal on quality.

Yup,,fixed it. smile

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