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Re: Trucks [Re: Flicker Shad] #7638984
07/31/22 03:48 PM
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i'm real simple. a 8FT box. hard to find anymore.


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Re: Trucks [Re: Flicker Shad] #7638988
07/31/22 03:55 PM
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It's become ridiculous.

My daily driver Silverado is 15 years old and 185K miles. Still runs great. But the body is slowly starting to go. It's an LT.......but besides power windows, A/C and a power driver seat, it's not full of crazy options. To replace it with new would run $47k - $50k !!!!!!!!!!! To replace it with a truck 5 years old and with 75k miles starts at $30k !!!!!!

Ridiculous.


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Re: Trucks [Re: Strut10] #7638998
07/31/22 04:06 PM
07/31/22 04:06 PM
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Over there.
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Over there.
Originally Posted by Strut10
It's become ridiculous.

My daily driver Silverado is 15 years old and 185K miles. Still runs great. But the body is slowly starting to go. It's an LT.......but besides power windows, A/C and a power driver seat, it's not full of crazy options. To replace it with new would run $47k - $50k !!!!!!!!!!! To replace it with a truck 5 years old and with 75k miles starts at $30k !!!!!!

Ridiculous.

That vortec engine will outlast these newer ones. Afm is horrible and all these lifter problems on the gm's. Quality has really dropped across the board on all brands over the last decade.

Re: Trucks [Re: Flicker Shad] #7639022
07/31/22 04:28 PM
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All that extra crap they hang on a truck is for the women who can't drive a stick because it's too much trouble to push that extra pedal.


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Re: Trucks [Re: Flicker Shad] #7639032
07/31/22 04:36 PM
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I have a ram 13 everything on it is electronic!!!

Re: Trucks [Re: Flicker Shad] #7639149
07/31/22 07:10 PM
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I ordered my jeep pickup with a manual transmission, roll up windows and manual door locks.


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Re: Trucks [Re: Flicker Shad] #7639152
07/31/22 07:11 PM
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FWIW most of jeep parts are still made in USA. Not just assembled here


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Re: Trucks [Re: Dirty D] #7639178
07/31/22 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirty D
I'm running on borrowed time on my daily driver. One thing for sure when it comes time to buy I ain't buying new. I can easily afford to but I hate all the junk on new vehicles.

I'd buy a new truck 3/4 ton, manual trans, no power anything, no A/C, no carpets, a bench seat, 8ft box, 2wd and standard cab. Should run about 25K I would think at most. Nobody makes a simple plain truck anymore. Base line trucks come with too much junk on them.

So instead I'm thinking of buying a used older truck something like 67-72. I can find a relatively rust free one like I mentioned above cause they were common place back then.
Prices for a decent one are 10-15K. I can add better brakes and EFI along with fixing up some minor stuff for about 10K. All in I'd be less than 25K for a nice simple vehicle.

I'd bet it get as good as gas mileage as a new truck, should be able to get approx 20 mpg. Had a buddy back in the day with a '72 chevy 350 quadrajet, 4 speed that did 20mpg when driven easy.

It'll last me the rest of my lifetime and I won't need to go near a dealer. I feel like a need to get home and take a shower after visiting any dealership.


I like this idea. Any of the 67-72 era trucks are cool. You'll have something nobody else has got.

Re: Trucks [Re: Flicker Shad] #7639182
07/31/22 07:46 PM
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New York border
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Some things to consider.

When a car manafactuer makes a 'stripped' vehicle , their profit is low. The gravy is in the options. If a manafactuer makes a work truck with the small stock engine , a manual transmission , a rubber floor and no other options , they might see a profit of $1000-1500. Buy one with all the bells and whistles , it could yield $10000-$15000 profit.

Add the chip shortage , it is smarter to put the chips in the products making money.

Factor in younger people who demand a minimum of certain options like automatic transmissions , air conditioning , power windows/locks/remote key fob and a sound system with Apple/Android play. This group is also more willing to buy even more options than that.

Remember when US car makers were reluctant to enter the small econobox car phase in the late '70s thru the '80s? They didn't want to make a car with a profit of $1000. They wanted to sell loaded up Cadillacs and make $10000.

I am of the camp of stripped out vehicles. Less things to break and cheaper to fix if they do.


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Re: Trucks [Re: Flicker Shad] #7639198
07/31/22 08:05 PM
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I have had quite a few older trucks for personal and work use, all the way back to 1931. So if you want basic, go way back.

My favorite for most things was the 1979 Ford F-250 highboy. It had 4wd, an AM radio, heater, and other basics. The 351M engine was plenty powerful.

The 1977 F-150 was a great truck, but lacked 4wd.

A 1988 F-150 was a great basic 4wd truck, but underpowered with a 302.

A 1989 F-250 was a great truck with plenty of power in the engine, but lacked 4wd.

My 2019 F-350 Lariat Ultimate is loaded with many features and options. It is my work truck and personal vehicle. The capability and comfort are outstanding. The camera for aligning trailers is wonderful - I would not want to be without it. And yes, I love the air conditioning.


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Re: Trucks [Re: Flicker Shad] #7639216
07/31/22 08:24 PM
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Give Coonman a call.

Re: Trucks [Re: Flicker Shad] #7639241
07/31/22 08:50 PM
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New "trucks" - if you can call them trucks now are overpriced impractical trash.
Can"t reach over the bed for tools.
Short useless beds.
Fancy impractical "platinum packages that rival luxury cars - hate to get them dirty from actual work.
Low hanging bumpers that get torn off even with mild off road use.
All power accessories that fail too soon.
Less ground clearance underneath than trucks of the past for better aerodynamics - yet they sit much higher inside - so much so they are hard to get in and out of without side steps.
Packed with plastic and electronics in the engine bays that are difficult to service.
Unreliable 8-10 speed transmissions.
Crazy high price tags for a suppossed work/utility vehicle.
Power tail gates and built in ladders to acess the bed and all that nonsense.
They are now just fancy SUVs with short useless beds.
There is no such thing as a truck anymore.

Re: Trucks [Re: Bob] #7639581
08/01/22 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob
I really liked all the nice things on my dodge. Didn’t use the backup camera much but the heated seats and steering wheel felt nice after checking traps in negative temps. Bluetooth is a must in my vehicles, you can keep your crappy public radio stations. But we traded it for a suburban since our family outgrew the pickup.

My next truck is in the shop now getting worked on. Instead of buying new i told my dad to look out for an older cheap pickup I can beat up in the hills. He found a 2005 dodge 3/4 ton crew cab, it doesn’t have all the bells and whistles my other truck had, but it has Bluetooth and AC so that’s alright. Straight body, no rust. The guy selling it thought the motor was shot cause it ran rough when idling, got it for $1,000. Dad thinks it’s just a vacuum leak so he’s got a gasket kit ordered. We will see if that works. If not we have a spare motor for it layin around so we will just pop that one in and call it good.

If you don’t like having nice things, just buy an old truck and fix it

Wish I could


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Re: Trucks [Re: Flicker Shad] #7639598
08/01/22 01:09 PM
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Friend of my brother.
Old truck on late model frame, so got upgraded everything
6.7 Cummins, big disc brakes, modern suspension, etc

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Wasn't a fan of these style Dodge trucks even back when they were new.
And they ALL seemed to be this color

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Re: Trucks [Re: Flicker Shad] #7639939
08/01/22 08:10 PM
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I've got to disagree with you Dave - those ol' Dodges are awesome!

Re: Trucks [Re: trapdog1] #7639950
08/01/22 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by trapdog1
I've got to disagree with you Dave - those ol' Dodges are awesome!


Double ugly.

My first truck was a '68 Chevy, back when ithey wasn't anything special.Classic looking trucks.
Same with late '60 to mid '70s Fords.

Only old Dodge that I liked looks of was Power Wagons.
The old ones, lol

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