Re: Upsetting the 'Apple' cart. . .
[Re: steeltraps]
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08/05/22 09:09 AM
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Yes sir
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30-40 guys running 150 200 mile lines will need a lot of room Right need some where SUPER large = 6666 Ranch is 350000 acres or so. King Ranch is almost 1 million. Dont know how big Mescularo is ? 1/2 million acres? Point is - somewherw massive. No limit on traps No team. Be the greatest contest ever = with the most coyotes EVER killed in a contest ! That would be worth it!!! I could be wrong but getting on an operation like those mentioned and putting together some like that with those rules would be interesting but very unrealistic. But if u could make it happen I say go for it. I think the hardest part will b finding an organizer for thr event. I'd be ok with 1000 entry fee but modest pay outs with some going to something like the discretionary fund. I think a Tman contest and the world's biggest and greatest should b geared differently.
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Re: Upsetting the 'Apple' cart. . .
[Re: LT GREY]
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08/05/22 09:11 AM
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danny clifton
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Yes Sir the Apache reservation championship contest ended a few years ago
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Upsetting the 'Apple' cart. . .
[Re: danny clifton]
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08/05/22 09:21 AM
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steeltraps
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Yes Sir the Apache reservation championship contest ended a few years ago Didnt know that. But you get the picture. Some where LARGE and BIG cash pay out !!!!
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Re: Upsetting the 'Apple' cart. . .
[Re: Yes sir]
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08/05/22 09:37 AM
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I'd be willing to help organize possibly but personally would not be intrested in big pay out or unlimited trap. But if we were serious I think we would have to see what the general consensus on here would be as far as the structure. I've seen what big $ has done to fishing and calling contests and personally I'm just not intrested in opening the door to that much drama. If others would want that that's the way it could be set up though. OK. I can get the no big pay out. BUT I just dont get the unlimited traps? Most people dont go to a coyote trapping job or out on the line with just a arbitrary # off traps ? Make it - the greatest contest of all. With the most coyotes EVER kill in a single contest ! Think how much good it will would do the landowner !
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Re: Upsetting the 'Apple' cart. . .
[Re: LT GREY]
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08/05/22 10:03 AM
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Wanna Be
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So he who has the most is the greatest coyote catcher? A better contest would be based on how many individuals are in the competition. 100 competitors limited to 10 traps each. That would be more of a Championship. If the absolute best coyote trapper you could think of only put out 50 and the worst put out 200, who do you think would catch the most? He who has the most sets in the ground. If you want to declare yourself a true coyote catcher, then limit traps so everything is the same. A blind hog finds an acorn every now and then.
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Re: Upsetting the 'Apple' cart. . .
[Re: warrior]
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08/05/22 10:08 AM
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I'd buy a ticket, to sit in the bleachers. I know I'm not a coyote trapper by any reasonable measure. I'm a problem solver and if solving the problem is scaring them off then I'm cool with that, too. I show up on a property and a coyote won’t be seen for at least 2 months after I leave and definitely not when I’m there!
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Re: Upsetting the 'Apple' cart. . .
[Re: Wanna Be]
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08/05/22 10:17 AM
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So he who has the most is the greatest coyote catcher? A better contest would be based on how many individuals are in the competition. 100 competitors limited to 10 traps each. That would be more of a Championship. If the absolute best coyote trapper you could think of only put out 50 and the worst put out 200, who do you think would catch the most? He who has the most sets in the ground. If you want to declare yourself a true coyote catcher, then limit traps so everything is the same. A blind hog finds an acorn every now and then. . You sound like the government. WHY? Put limits on anything? Talking about 300000 to 1 million acres. Big money pay out. Unlimited traps Let a person put out what he wants. Who you want a contest or where someone said = NO dirtholes ?? Geez
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Re: Upsetting the 'Apple' cart. . .
[Re: steeltraps]
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08/05/22 10:27 AM
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So he who has the most is the greatest coyote catcher? A better contest would be based on how many individuals are in the competition. 100 competitors limited to 10 traps each. That would be more of a Championship. If the absolute best coyote trapper you could think of only put out 50 and the worst put out 200, who do you think would catch the most? He who has the most sets in the ground. If you want to declare yourself a true coyote catcher, then limit traps so everything is the same. A blind hog finds an acorn every now and then. . You sound like the government. WHY? Put limits on anything? Talking about 300000 to 1 million acres. Big money pay out. Unlimited traps Let a person put out what he wants. Who you want a contest or where someone said = NO dirtholes ?? Geez Question is who can catch the most based on nothing but pure skill with the only variable being the grey matter in a trapper's head or sheer ability of effort. The first would require reducing all variables to a minimum such as same number and type of trap, same size parcel/population, etc. Leave nothing but choice of set location, construction and luring to the competitor. The second could be unlimited and let the man with the most stamina show what he's got. Either competition would be impressive no doubt.
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Re: Upsetting the 'Apple' cart. . .
[Re: Yes sir]
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08/05/22 11:14 AM
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I understand your view and I appreciate your willingness to be flexible Thanks. Yes Sir. Thats whats life is all about right? Compromise ? We all trap coyotes alittle different. But. Killimg coyotes = Is killing coyotes! LOL!
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Re: Upsetting the 'Apple' cart. . .
[Re: steeltraps]
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08/05/22 11:15 AM
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Well guys. I guess this is why it will NEVER work out that we will ever have a Tman coyote catching contest. Everyone wants something different. No one can agree on anything. Here is what I would love to see. = Unlimited traps Unlimited space Large CASH payout No partners! I feel that that the top guys would want to = pony up the cash and go for it ! I am a gambler myself BUT would consider it an honor to compete agains the best of the best of Tman. Just like the idea of = big cash pay out and LOTS of dead coyotes. That being said. IF yall ever got up a contest. Regardless of rules I did or did not like. I would still take off a week or so and play. I'd love to see that contest. I guess what I was comparing would be more like an Ironman triathlon vs International Chess Master Competition, two completely different things. And both equally challenging and fascinating in different ways.
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