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The Reality #7651858
08/17/22 01:18 PM
08/17/22 01:18 PM
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As I review my profit and loss page anger came over me!

Our energy resources have been moved off shore because of the green new deal. Now because of that EVERYTHING is costing more and if you earn your living self employed this happened so quick that making adjustments canít be done this quick in my situation anyway. Locked into contracts!

Now we are being told that IRS is hiring 87,000 agents to pick the bones of profits that are left!

This is the problem when a politician that has never worked in the private sector. Biden doesnít have a clue how things work away from government.


I love the smell of burning spruce---I love the sound of a spring time goose---I love the feel of 40 below---from my trapline I will never go!
Re: The Reality [Re: Oh Snap] #7651862
08/17/22 01:21 PM
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The IRS does not go after tax-paying citizens, just those who elect not to pay according to the law. Which group are you among? If all people followed the tax laws, no new agents would be required.

Re: The Reality [Re: Oh Snap] #7651869
08/17/22 01:28 PM
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Not trueÖ I had my bank account cleaned in the early 70ís and it took 5 years to get it back, at least I got it back!


I love the smell of burning spruce---I love the sound of a spring time goose---I love the feel of 40 below---from my trapline I will never go!
Re: The Reality [Re: Oh Snap] #7651874
08/17/22 01:38 PM
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The new agents are all about political persecution....



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Re: The Reality [Re: Marty] #7651879
08/17/22 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Marty
The new agents are all about political persecution....



yup

For the ones that still don't get it, read " Mein Kampf " its their play book


Let's go Brandon

"Shall not comply" with morons who don't understand "shall not infringe."
Re: The Reality [Re: Oh Snap] #7651894
08/17/22 02:09 PM
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The IRS doesn't go after tax paying citizens . Really I didn't know that.

Re: The Reality [Re: Oh Snap] #7651899
08/17/22 02:15 PM
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Put me in charge and those what get audited will be every member of congress, and their staff; every federal judge; every employee of IRS, every employee of ATF, FBI, DOJ, every journalist and every member of the screen actors guild.

That ought to keep em busy.

Re: The Reality [Re: charles] #7651900
08/17/22 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by charles
The IRS does not go after tax-paying citizens, just those who elect not to pay according to the law. Which group are you among? If all people followed the tax laws, no new agents would be required.


Nope

Re: The Reality [Re: charles] #7651902
08/17/22 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by charles
Which group are you among? .


Question is what group are you, citizen or IRS?


I love the smell of burning spruce---I love the sound of a spring time goose---I love the feel of 40 below---from my trapline I will never go!
Re: The Reality [Re: Oh Snap] #7651912
08/17/22 02:39 PM
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I pay my taxes and still been audited 3 times. Whatís bad is I only got audited after the person that did it those three years passed away. Sorta strange I was great up until that point. Sent everything I had to the IRS and still ended up paying. Not as much as they said I owed, but still paid. $5K the first time, $2.5K the second time and $800 the third time. Everything has been fine since then and before then. Thatís why I PAY someone and someone reputable!

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I love the smell of burning spruce---I love the sound of a spring time goose---I love the feel of 40 below---from my trapline I will never go!
Re: The Reality [Re: Oh Snap] #7651917
08/17/22 02:49 PM
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What area of your return did they alert to?

I had a friend in the restaurant business who was audited. He was not reporting many of his cash sales.

Re: The Reality [Re: Oh Snap] #7651942
08/17/22 03:38 PM
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I just remembered a couple IRS incidents here in Alaska many years ago!
There were a couple that owed ITS and went to the federal building to square up. The details are sketchy except they owned a Volkswagen and the agents broke the windows out and dragged the people out of the car. My best recollection it was many years ago!

I was doing work on a persons business. His friend was a anti tax guy. I asked him why I hadnít heard him on the radio or read any of his stuff in the paper. Well he replied that he was in his cabin out in the woods a bunch of miles from Fairbanks. Late one night a knock at the door revealed a bunch of ARMED agents. Since then not a peep about anti tax was why I hadnít heard anything. His friend wouldnít say what happened or even talk about it!


I love the smell of burning spruce---I love the sound of a spring time goose---I love the feel of 40 below---from my trapline I will never go!
Re: The Reality [Re: charles] #7651976
08/17/22 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by charles
The IRS does not go after tax-paying citizens, just those who elect not to pay according to the law. Which group are you among? If all people followed the tax laws, no new agents would be required.

B.S. There is suddenly such an influx of scofflaws that 87,000 new agents are needed? Sure.

Re: The Reality [Re: charles] #7651977
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Originally Posted by charles
What area of your return did they alert to?

I had a friend in the restaurant business who was audited. He was not reporting many of his cash sales.

I honestly donít know. Iím employed so taxes are taken out whether I want them too or not, lol. Come to find out several of this persons customers were audited. I just find it strange that we were all audited after she had died. Heck my parents had used this lady for two decades and they were audited as well.
I think they have a big wall with names of accountants and when one dies they go after their clients knowing thereís no one we can ask why or what did you screw up on or did you make a mistake?

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Re: The Reality [Re: charles] #7652040
08/17/22 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by charles
The IRS does not go after tax-paying citizens, just those who elect not to pay according to the law. Which group are you among? If all people followed the tax laws, no new agents would be required.



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They will audit anyone and everyone . And it will cost you money to prove them wrong . You will receive no apology for the undue grief they caused you and your family


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Re: The Reality [Re: AntiGov] #7652079
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Having completed and don small business taxes for decades and going to seminars on how to complete forms and listen to IRS auditors etc. For those that choose the barter and or cash system as a way to avoid paying taxes, remember that if there is a serious audit cash is much easier to track and or the items you buy are etc. etc. then you think. If there is indeed going to be 87k new agents and they are going to concentrate on auditing those they suspect then for many this could get costly. The IRS has been generally extremelly lax in auditing most small businesses in the past, so hiding monies was easy and common. If they choose to really get tougher on finding non compliance they will have in my opinion a rich target area. This does not change the codes, brackets, percentages, credits etc. etc. it maybe just taking a serious look at how in our out of compliance with the current code and laws are we. From my experience with those that were delinquent the actual taxes were not the big issue, it was the late filing fees, fines and interest that mounted daily. Those were and probably will be negotiation points for those that were just more neglectul or had hardships etc. For those where fraud can be found then that is another whole can of worms.

Bryce

Re: The Reality [Re: Oh Snap] #7652087
08/17/22 07:09 PM
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I did a little research. Numb nuts told us you have nothing to fear about being audited unless you make over 400K or some stupid thing. Anyway, with the new hires, each IRS auditor will be responsible for 16.9 taxpayers per year, based on the #'s. What will they do after week two to stay busy. I have my suspicions.


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Re: The Reality [Re: Oh Snap] #7652089
08/17/22 07:11 PM
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Al Capone's story always interested me. They couldn't catch him on anything he did so they threw him in prison for tax evasion....


If you actually don't pay your taxes like maybe Al Sharpton... you don't go to jail












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Re: The Reality [Re: bblwi] #7652093
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Originally Posted by bblwi
Having completed and don small business taxes for decades and going to seminars on how to complete forms and listen to IRS auditors etc. For those that choose the barter and or cash system as a way to avoid paying taxes, remember that if there is a serious audit cash is much easier to track and or the items you buy are etc. etc. then you think. If there is indeed going to be 87k new agents and they are going to concentrate on auditing those they suspect then for many this could get costly. The IRS has been generally extremelly lax in auditing most small businesses in the past, so hiding monies was easy and common. If they choose to really get tougher on finding non compliance they will have in my opinion a rich target area. This does not change the codes, brackets, percentages, credits etc. etc. it maybe just taking a serious look at how in our out of compliance with the current code and laws are we. From my experience with those that were delinquent the actual taxes were not the big issue, it was the late filing fees, fines and interest that mounted daily. Those were and probably will be negotiation points for those that were just more neglectul or had hardships etc. For those where fraud can be found then that is another whole can of worms.

Bryce


That is the reason I pay a CPA to keep me out of trouble!


I love the smell of burning spruce---I love the sound of a spring time goose---I love the feel of 40 below---from my trapline I will never go!
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