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Re: Dinosaur [Re: nate] #7654059
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Not even close, once the first group of us made it through and figured out how to navigate, its only a matter of time before they all get wiped out. The only thing that I would have loved to know is what they tasted like, I mean beyond the incredible view of seeing them in person.

Re: Dinosaur [Re: nate] #7654138
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Dinosaurs predated us. Do you understand carbon dating?

Re: Dinosaur [Re: nate] #7654179
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Please elaborate on this navigation technique.

Re: Dinosaur [Re: charles] #7654619
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Originally Posted by charles
Dinosaurs predated us. Do you understand carbon dating?


Do you? Carbon dating only works back to 50,000 years or so.


you can vote your way into socialism, but you will have to shoot your way out.
Re: Dinosaur [Re: nate] #7654779
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Re: Dinosaur [Re: Bigbrownie] #7654827
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Originally Posted by Bigbrownie
I have a 3 x 4 foot piece of shale in my basement. I got it from the roof rock in a mine in Indiana County Pa. I barred it down myself. It has amphibious tetrapod tracks criss crossing the rock. Actually two different kind of critters. The rock came from an area about 400 feet below the surface. These came from the Carboniferous Era, a couple hundred million years ago.

In 37 years working underground, I’d never seen anything like it. Folks from Pitt and Penn State Universities came to look at that area of the mine, it was full of tracks.

I’m just wondering what I’m gonna do with this big rock downstairs.

Take a picture of it and post it. I am on the edge of my seat.

Re: Dinosaur [Re: Bigbrownie] #7654829
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Originally Posted by Bigbrownie
[Linked Image]

Here’s a picture I took inside the mine, nine years ago. These track were made by an amphibious tetrapod, that would have predated dinosaurs. These critters walked the earth a couple of hundred million years ago.

This area of the mine was full of tracks in the mine roof. Must have been a good crossing. Good place to catch one in a blind set.

What's your trap check frequency laws? I'm thinking that if its 24 hours, your gonna be busy for a while. smile

Re: Dinosaur [Re: 52Carl] #7654836
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Originally Posted by 52Carl
Originally Posted by Bigbrownie
I have a 3 x 4 foot piece of shale in my basement. I got it from the roof rock in a mine in Indiana County Pa. I barred it down myself. It has amphibious tetrapod tracks criss crossing the rock. Actually two different kind of critters. The rock came from an area about 400 feet below the surface. These came from the Carboniferous Era, a couple hundred million years ago.

In 37 years working underground, I’d never seen anything like it. Folks from Pitt and Penn State Universities came to look at that area of the mine, it was full of tracks.

I’m just wondering what I’m gonna do with this big rock downstairs.

Take a picture of it and post it. I am on the edge of my seat.

Here’s the rock that’s in my basement…I circled the line of tracks

[Linked Image]

Re: Dinosaur [Re: nate] #7654838
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There is a big difference between adaptation and evolution.
Adaptation is merely the ability of a species to change its ways to make a living in the relatively short term.
Evolution is a result of random genetic mutations occurring over millions of years which renders a survival edge to some which is passed on to their progeny, while those which lack those genetic traits die out.
Most species today on the endangered species list are the ones which lack the advantage of the process. 99.9% of all known species on Earth have gone extinct. Those on the endangered list are merely next in line to join the 99.9%.
If we believe that God has better plans for human beings, we might want to start acting better to deserve it.

Re: Dinosaur [Re: nate] #7654844
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Here’s a better pic of the mine roof.
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A different critter…

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Me, pointing at the tracks…

[Linked Image]

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Re: Dinosaur [Re: drasselt] #7654892
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Originally Posted by drasselt
Originally Posted by charles
Dinosaurs predated us. Do you understand carbon dating?


Do you? Carbon dating only works back to 50,000 years or so.


There are other types of isotope dating that are used past 50,000 years. And other types of dating techniques.

Re: Dinosaur [Re: nate] #7654902
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Yeah I know but Chas apparently does not.


you can vote your way into socialism, but you will have to shoot your way out.
Re: Dinosaur [Re: Bigbrownie] #7654913
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Originally Posted by Bigbrownie
Here’s a better pic of the mine roof.
[Linked Image]

A different critter…

[Linked Image]

Me, pointing at the tracks…

[Linked Image]


How would it get on the ceiling?

Re: Dinosaur [Re: Blaine County] #7654923
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
Some of these posts confirm our national IQ is falling. Fast.

Well then quit posting and help strengthen the curve a bit. Take one for the Gipper..... grin grin

I don't believe any of that dating things back to hundreds of thousands of years is accurate. It's a hypothesis at best in my opinion. And my opinion counts because I've stayed at a Holiday Inn Express not once, but twice!!


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
Re: Dinosaur [Re: 52Carl] #7654952
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Originally Posted by 52Carl
99.9% of all known species on Earth have gone extinct. Those on the endangered list are merely next in line to join the 99.9%.


I'd like to know where this bit of information came from.

Re: Dinosaur [Re: nate] #7654982
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The mine roof was once the surface of the earth. When these critters walked in the mud, they sunk in and made a track. Over time, more silt accumulated over the mud that the track was made in. Over time, the silt formed layers of shale. When the coal was removed, mine roof is shale. If some of the shale rock scales off, it exposes the tracks….no longer sunk in the mud, but rather raised tracks. That’s because the tracks filled with silt and are adhered to the layer of rock above it.

Re: Dinosaur [Re: Bigbrownie] #7655020
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Thanks bigbrownie. I should of thought that we were looking at the underside of them. Very interesting.

Re: Dinosaur [Re: Norwestalta] #7655030
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Originally Posted by Norwestalta
Thanks bigbrownie. I should of thought that we were looking at the underside of them. Very interesting.

Believe me, I had to think about it while back then to understand what I was looking at. I’ve known thousands of miners in my life, but none that I know of have ever seen anything like this. The folks from the universities were very excited….you could tell by their reactions it was something very rare to encounter.
How could something 400 feet underground once be the earth’s surface. Mind boggling stuff for sure.

Re: Dinosaur [Re: charles] #7655133
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Originally Posted by charles
Dinosaurs predated us. Do you understand carbon dating?


I understand they carbon dated snails to be thirty thousand years old, and the place knew they were less than 30 years old. LoL

They carbon dated a fresh killed seal to be 1600 years old. ( Antarctic Journal of United States Volume 6 Oct. 1971)

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Re: Dinosaur [Re: Bigbrownie] #7655134
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Originally Posted by Bigbrownie
Originally Posted by Norwestalta
Thanks bigbrownie. I should of thought that we were looking at the underside of them. Very interesting.

Believe me, I had to think about it while back then to understand what I was looking at. I’ve known thousands of miners in my life, but none that I know of have ever seen anything like this. The folks from the universities were very excited….you could tell by their reactions it was something very rare to encounter.
How could something 400 feet underground once be the earth’s surface. Mind boggling stuff for sure.


Guess only, but would say glaciers or a great flood.

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