Re: Acorn gathering
[Re: Trapper Dahlgren]
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09/15/22 12:02 AM
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a guy in the u p of michigan made a planter for acorns, i think it under 906 outdoors I found it, thanks: https://www.nutplanter.com/If I plant them now, I wonder if I have to worry about them sprouting this year, freezing, & dieing
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Re: Acorn gathering
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09/15/22 12:14 AM
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Oh, ok. I guess I was/am afraid if I store them wet they will mold, rot, or sprout
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Re: Acorn gathering
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09/15/22 07:22 AM
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I'd like to buy some burr oak from WDNR but I don't think I can order enough trees to meet their high minimum order requirements. 1 of the reasons I want a diverse array of oak types is to help mitigate the risk of disease wiping out my forest. Check your county NCRS or forestry dept, they have tree sales in the spring. They all have sales, you can usually buy in lots of 10-25 trees. They cost something in the rang of $1-2 ea. I have gotten Burr Oaks from my countys sales (Sheboygan). I have also ordered trees from other neighboring counties when my county was not offering a certain specie. search for your county tree sale, they usually start in Nov and must be ordered by Feb. Then there is usually 2-3 days in the spring where you can pick them up. They also have shrubs and wild flower seed and other stuff like bat houses, tree protectors etc. Every county is different. If you don't find the specie your looking for search a neighboring county.
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Re: Acorn gathering
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09/15/22 07:41 AM
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Oh, ok. I guess I was/am afraid if I store them wet they will mold, rot, or sprout If worried about molding dip the acorns in a 10% solution of bleach and water. 1 oz bleach to 10 oz water. Also storing in moist sphagnum moss helps.
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Re: Acorn gathering
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09/15/22 06:35 PM
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I've had zero luck with sawtooth oaks. I have some over 40 feet tall...never produced an acorn.
If you do plant any: do not plant them in sandy soils and plant them in full sunlight. They may not produce any acorns but they will grow big and pretty...lol
Btw...all the sawtooths I have seen planted on other properties make acorns like crazy...
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Re: Acorn gathering
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09/15/22 08:36 PM
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I have planted 1000’s of red oak acorns in the spring. I have had amazing success sprouting them by picking in the fall putting them in a ziplock bag and storing them in the refrigerator for the winter. I do about a 100 per year
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Re: Acorn gathering
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09/15/22 09:07 PM
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I have planted 1000’s of red oak acorns in the spring. I have had amazing success sprouting them by picking in the fall putting them in a ziplock bag and storing them in the refrigerator for the winter. I do about a 100 per year I heard to leave the bag unzipped & slightly damp in the refrigerator. Just think of the $ you are saving vs buying seedlings
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Re: Acorn gathering
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09/15/22 10:20 PM
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I have even vacuum sealed them but found that is not necessary as a ziplock keeps them moist and then take them out of the fridge about 2-3 weeks before you want them to start sprouting
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Re: Acorn gathering
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09/16/22 05:05 AM
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a ziplock keeps them moist and then take them out of the fridge about 2-3 weeks before you want them to start sprouting So it is ok if they start sprouting before the acorn is planted? Some of mine already look like this:
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Re: Acorn gathering
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09/16/22 05:08 AM
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White oak probably best in November Dahlgren.
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Re: Acorn gathering
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09/16/22 08:55 AM
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I have planted 1000’s of red oak acorns in the spring. I have had amazing success sprouting them by picking in the fall putting them in a ziplock bag and storing them in the refrigerator for the winter. I do about a 100 per year Red oaks are different than white oaks, red oaks germinate in the spring after winter, white oaks germinate in the fall right after falling. Do not store white oaks, plant them right away, Red oak and white oak are two different families of the Oak tree. here is an article about some of the differences http://www.huntingtheland.com/red-white-oak-differences/
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Re: Acorn gathering
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09/16/22 09:06 AM
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a ziplock keeps them moist and then take them out of the fridge about 2-3 weeks before you want them to start sprouting So it is ok if they start sprouting before the acorn is planted? Some of mine already look like this: Plant white oaks in the fall, they are growing a root. DO NOT STORE WHITE OAK ACORNS!!! PLANT THEM RIGHT AWAY. not all oaks are the same, storing them in moist media while in a fridge is "stratification", white oaks do not need stratification. This copies nature, some seeds need stratification to germinate, others don't. Red and White oaks are not the same. Most grasses do not need stratification and most wildflowers do. here is some info https://hortnews.extension.iastate.edu/faq/how-do-i-germinate-acorns
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Re: Acorn gathering
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09/17/22 12:41 PM
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Will do.
Meanwhile I picked some more acorns last night. I probably have enough now. I found a white oak that's a Holy Grail for acorn pickers, at least this year.
I've been really busy studying up this week on the process, and trying to properly prepare my acorns. In some ways it's simple but in some ways complicated. I mean a rodent can plant an acorn, so I'm trying to keep it simple, but if I'm going to all this work I want to do it right.
This weekends process is rinsing, floating, & then the bleach treatment... and putting them in the fridge. I have to make sure I understand the process to make sure they are proper dampness but not too moist when I put them in the fridge. I'm putting them in a bunch of small but open ziplock bags & then I'll be able to take a bag or 2 whenever I go to the land. And then when I figure out the perfect time for primary planting, I'll try to put that acorn planter to heavy use to make a day of it.
A lot of the info I read online is consistent, but it varies some depending on the source. There is a process- whether I'd call it exact science I don't know.
I don't claim to be an expert on this but I've sure been getting an education so far this week
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Re: Acorn gathering
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09/19/22 08:21 AM
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If worried about molding dip the acorns in a 10% solution of bleach and water. 1 oz bleach to 10 oz water. Also storing in moist sphagnum moss helps.
This thread has been helpful. Thanks. A bleach treatment is good, but I suspect bleaching white oak is a potential problem b/c they sprout so fast, even if put in a refrigerator before planting. I've heard of people using apple cider vinegar instead. For this batch, I think I am ready to start planting this week when my tool shows up. Right now I have 'em in the fridge- hopefully maintaining a proper moisture content. I have over a gallon. I'm not sure how many are in a gallon but it is a lot.
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