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Re: Free pass on crime [Re: concrete man] #7673660
09/17/22 08:56 PM
09/17/22 08:56 PM
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Over there.
Originally Posted by concrete man
I will no longer attend any event or drive to or through Illionois after January 1 2023.

Why wait? Quit giving them your money now.

Re: Free pass on crime [Re: concrete man] #7673747
09/17/22 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by concrete man
I will no longer attend any event or drive to or through Illionois after January 1 2023.


sure a long way around if your headed to WI ,IA , MN or MO

maybe gas up before crossing and drive the fastest route without stopping.

once you get more 75 miles from Cook co or maybe it should be called Crook county most of the people are quite nice and normal

remember about 80% of ILL counties are 2A sanctuary co, you just wouldn't know because Crook Co and it's neighbors basically set all state law.

Last edited by GREENCOUNTYPETE; 09/18/22 12:01 AM.

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Re: Free pass on crime [Re: BigBob] #7673750
09/18/22 12:00 AM
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Just not too fast, you don't want to get pulled over! LOL


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Re: Free pass on crime [Re: trapper20] #7673981
09/18/22 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by trapper20
yep! first they want to take fireamrs from law abiding citizens to reduce crime involving firearms, then they dont want to punish those that are actually commiting the crimes!!!! yep makes sence to me SMH.


Really it does make sense, not in the having a safe society way but that’s not what their aiming for, you have to remember you need to look at their actions not how they advised and advocate for what their doing, and what their doing is creating fear, increasing crime, social decay, anarchy and chaos to name a little bit

Now ask yourself why they would do something like this with an outcome that’s easily predictable, Its certainly not for some pie In the sky idea of some utopia where bad people are going to change their ways and suddenly become law abiding citizens, it’s all about power and control, people who are living in social chaos with rampant crime are very willing to give up rights and freedoms for the promise of safety, many will even suggest more they can give up for safety sake, and then later will wonder what happened why their rights and freedoms are gone

By the way what’s happening now is right out of the communist playbook on how to take over a county mag get the people to actually give up control and freedoms willingly


https://www.lewistownsentinel.com/o.../democrats-following-communist-playbook/

Gives a good analysis of what’s going on far better then I can put it into words



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Re: Free pass on crime [Re: shanemoss] #7674084
09/18/22 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by shanemoss
What does this really mean???

If I read it right, it changes very little? Misdemeanors and non-violent criminals are arrested then held to see the judge who decides to offer or set bail....only the bail is free? Can't the judge release someone on their own recognizance now and ain't that the same? I see both sides. If your crazy neighbor lies to have you arrested, and you have no money, then you get out right away without money, then go to trial and show everyone it's just your crazy neighbor? Innocent until proven guilty, right?

If you are guilty but the judge sees no danger, you're let go till trial where you'll be sentenced. If you do anything while you're out, I guess it'll be like probation and magnify whatever mess you already in? The prosecution has 48 hours to gather evidence to convince the judge to hold you but if you were arrested, they should already be enough evidence for the prosecutor I bet.

I know nothing about law and crime so would someone explain what I'm missing?



you obviously did not read it right! they are not talking about minor misdemeanors. They ARE talking about violent crimes and felonies. bail is there to make sure the defendant shows up for court and is not a threat to society. the prosecutor has to get the information (Probable cause) to the judge within 48 hours(usually quicker) and the judge determines the bail. they are skipping this whole process. so if you think someone who commits a violent crime will not do it again then you'd be right and this would not be a problem. the problem with this line of thought is that most of us know this to be false

Re: Free pass on crime [Re: BigBob] #7674167
09/18/22 05:57 PM
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Re: Free pass on crime [Re: BigBob] #7674169
09/18/22 06:08 PM
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And yet you have those individuals who support this . Say that people who are against it don’t understand it… it’s something how they are more educated than law enforcement and states attorneys


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Re: Free pass on crime [Re: BigBob] #7674175
09/18/22 06:19 PM
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We do need some form of bail reform but not this.

The bail reform I speak of is how I was done one night in Dooley County, GA. Pulled over for doing 60 in a 55mph construction zone. Was instructed to follow the deputy back to the jail. Once there I was taken inside fingerprinted and photographed and informed that I had to post a 1500 cash bail. Meanwhile my truck with two employees sat outside in the parking lot unable to be released.
The missus had to drive down with cash as they wouldn't take plastic or let my guys run to an atm with my card.

Then when I had to drive back down for court the fine came to exactly 1500.


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