338 378 Weatherby mag
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11/18/22 11:48 AM
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Gary Benson
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I found an empty brass at the rifle range. Hadn't heard of it but it is a biggun. Beside a 7mm. 30-06, and 308. Pricey ammo too. And people claim accuracy at 1500 yards. I don't think I'd want to put that to my shoulder.
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Re: 338 378 Weatherby mag
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That is a large and imposing empty case!
Team - how is performance of the 300 RUM on large critters? My only experience with mine has been on whitetail deer. Their size doesn’t let the bullet perform properly. I bought mine because of some planned hunts for large game away from home. Very impressive ballistics. That year wifey and I both drew great moose tags. Unfortunately wifey developed a very serious health problem and we had to cancel.
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Re: 338 378 Weatherby mag
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That is a large and imposing empty case!
Team - how is performance of the 300 RUM on large critters? My only experience with mine has been on whitetail deer. Their size doesn’t let the bullet perform properly. I bought mine because of some planned hunts for large game away from home. Very impressive ballistics. That year wifey and I both drew great moose tags. Unfortunately wifey developed a very serious health problem and we had to cancel. I have a couple friends with 300 RUMs. 1 of them hunts elk every year here in SD (landowner) he shoots a swift sirrocco 2 bullet I don’t recall the weight. He’s a great shooter and the gun performs fantastically dead elk every time. The other friend bought his 300 RUM for a Canadian black bear hunt just because he could I guess. He shot a very large bear about 500 pounds if I remember correctly. No problems with it. He primarily uses it for mule and whitetail deer and antelope now. I load 180 accubonds in it for him. The only time I shot it was for some prairie dog excitement! Plenty of gun for sure.
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Re: 338 378 Weatherby mag
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11/18/22 05:09 PM
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I remember when the Ultra Mags came out, the 300 being by far the most popular. About half the guys who bought them loved them, and the other half got rid of them after shooting them a few times. A lot depends on the design of the gun, how the recoil is. Fast, flat shooting, they pack plenty of punch, but again they are powder hogs. A friend of mine has a 7mm Ultra mag, I was debating between it, the 300 RUM, and the 7mm STW I eventually had built. With light bullets (140s) the 7mm RUM will outshoot my STW, but with the big 180s I shoot out of my STW they were equal velocities shooting side by side over a chrono (his didn't have the proper twist to stabilize those long heavy bullets so they weren't accurate, but that is a gun, not a cartridge issue) but I was loading 20 grains less powder to achieve the same ballistics! And could carry one more in the magazine.
The 300 RUM is a very nice cartridge though and at least in this area not too uncommon so factory ammo can be found. If reloading for it pay attention to the bullets you are loading in it however, there are a number of 30 caliber bullets that are not designed to fly that fast and their performance on game is very subpar in the RUM, particularly at shorter distances. You need a bullet with a fairly tough jacket so it doesn't grenade on impact at high velocities. Can't speak to performance on the big bears, but performance on deer, elk, moose, and black bear is very good with proper bullets. I've guided a number of guys with them, as well as having numerous friends and acquiantances who use them. Even had my mom shoot a whitetail with one once, that was out of range for her old lever action 308. Only problems I have seen with them are some guys who can't shoot that big of a gun accurately, or handloads with inappropriate bullets.
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Re: 338 378 Weatherby mag
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11/18/22 07:15 PM
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I was asking about the performance of the .300 RUM on large animals because it has plenty of horsepower. My only experience with it is shooting a couple whitetails. I don’t load rifle cartridges so use Federal Premium ammunition. The bullet was a Barnes something which did not expand and seemed to zip right through without dumping much hydrostatic shock. Of course, the bullet was designed for larger animals.
Team V - do you have any experience with the .300 RUM on moose or brown bears?
ArcticOtter & Bearcat - those are tremendous reports about known experiences. Loading for it with those 180 Accubonds would make it behave. Prairie dog vapor? You guys are experts on rifles, ammunition, and loading. I have always loved the science of loading and the ballistics of shooting. But with many outdoor passions and the gear, I just never could add in loading rifle cartridges. Recoil from the .300 RUM is certainly less than a 12 gauge 3.5” super magnum 2 ounce lead turkey load! Your mom must be very cool!
Slowpoke - I bet that 30-378 is a brute too! Good luck tomorrow and enjoy your classic rifle.
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Re: 338 378 Weatherby mag
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You guys have great experiences! Loading, ballistics, and hunting performance is great fun to discuss. Thank you for the info. I am ready and willing to go on any adventure if you ever want another person.
I had quite a bit of work done on my .300 RUM, including a custom muzzle brake. The recoil is reduced by approximately 40% and the sound is increased about 40%. The blast is tremendous! A threaded cap in place of the muzzle brake puts it back to original recoil and sound. Either way, ear plugs are essential.
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Re: 338 378 Weatherby mag
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Wanna be - I agree completely that the .300 RUM is too much gun to hunt whitetail deer especially using factory loaded ammunition. The reasons are way too long to address here, but I did not originally select it to use for whitetail deer hunting.
Likewise the .338-378 would be even more extreme. I wanted to ask knowledgeable and experienced guys about their experiences.
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Re: 338 378 Weatherby mag
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I have a 30-378 and is my go to rifle. Extremely accurate and can get it done from 1 foot to as far as I can see. I've only taken 2 of those shots in 20 years outside of the range as the planets almost have to align for it to reasonable. I was successful both times. Mine is zipping a 180 at just under 3,600. I had a 338-378 and wish I still did. It was a great shooter and has more case capacity than the Lapua. I have been playing with a wildcatted 35 the last couple years I just loaded my ammo for the season yesterday it opens in the morning. I'm not gonna say what it is but it is loaded with 96.5 grains of RL9 pushing a 200 grain projectile. It is on an Encore frame and is ultra accurate.
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