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Re: Another tip from a legend [Re: MattLA] #7726923
11/25/22 07:31 PM
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Re: Another tip from a legend [Re: Yes sir] #7726932
11/25/22 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
I still don't understand the physics of how the stick let's ur trap fire with dirt or sand under the pan. If dirt gets under ur pan enough to fill the void not allowing the pan to go down how does the stick remedy this?

I just use coffee filters.


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Re: Another tip from a legend [Re: Yukon John] #7726948
11/25/22 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Yukon John
Originally Posted by Yes sir
I still don't understand the physics of how the stick let's ur trap fire with dirt or sand under the pan. If dirt gets under ur pan enough to fill the void not allowing the pan to go down how does the stick remedy this?

I just use coffee filters.

I like the blue shop towels myself. Has multiple applications and I dont use paper filters to make coffee anymore .

Re: Another tip from a legend [Re: MattLA] #7726963
11/25/22 08:21 PM
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I've thought about the garden weed control felt, just haven't. Filters to me are super easy. To each his own.


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Re: Another tip from a legend [Re: MattLA] #7726981
11/25/22 08:39 PM
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Which legend bestowed us this blessing of knowledge? If it was April 1st it would make perfect sense lol !

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Re: Another tip from a legend [Re: MattLA] #7726998
11/25/22 08:57 PM
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Polyfill works fine for me.

This stick tip makes no sense.


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Re: Another tip from a legend [Re: MattLA] #7727001
11/25/22 09:00 PM
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YJ I use poly fill or wax paper but I'm really wanting an explanation on this stick thingy.
My take on this which might be totally wrong is.... some inexperienced person that wants to be a legend thought the purpose of an under all or poly fiil was to hold the pan up and decided to show everyone how clever they were and came up with what they thought was a simpler idea to do the same thing. It's the only explanation i can come up for this idea.They also figured out in their mind the fresh pine would be best because it smells good. I'm betting the "legend" can't be named because he wants to fly under the radar which would of course make it impossible to be a legend if no one knew about u.
Maybe this will get an explanation of how the stick helps the trap fire when dirt gets under the pan.

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Re: Another tip from a legend [Re: MattLA] #7727023
11/25/22 09:16 PM
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Nothing personal but thatís a silly idea using a stick!! Use a file. Learn how to adjust traps or just buy some good coil spring traps and be done with it!!!

Re: Another tip from a legend [Re: Yes sir] #7727034
11/25/22 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
YJ I use poly fill or wax paper but I'm really wanting an explanation on this stick thingy.
My take on this which might be totally wrong is.... some inexperienced person that wants to be a legend thought the purpose of an under all or poly fiil was to hold the pan up and decided to show everyone how clever they were and came up with what they thought was a simpler idea to do the same thing. It's the only explanation i can come up for this idea.They also figured out in their mind the fresh pine would be best because it smells good. I'm betting the "legend" can't be named because he wants to fly under the radar which would of course make it impossible to be a legend if no one knew about u.
Maybe this will get an explanation of how the stick helps the trap fire when dirt gets under the pan.

I've tried the polyfill in limited settings, and it just seams like if the set has to soak for a time the fine soil that we have will just filter into it, and will limit the pan travel too much(which could be a tuning problem I spose). The fact that we have little indication who came up with the stick seems to be either, like you stated, or just to get a conversation going, or to steer someone in the wrong direction! I like to give folks on here the benefit of the doubt, so I'll let him weigh in. Until then, I won't ponder it too much.


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Re: Another tip from a legend [Re: MattLA] #7727037
11/25/22 09:29 PM
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What kind of vechile did this Legend drive?


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Re: Another tip from a legend [Re: Mark McCary] #7727041
11/25/22 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark McCary
Nothing personal but thatís a silly idea using a stick!! Use a file. Learn how to adjust traps or just buy some good coil spring traps and be done with it!!!

It's about enabling the trap to fire when soil gets under the pan, pan tension is just a side benefit.

Re: Another tip from a legend [Re: Yukon John] #7727046
11/25/22 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Yukon John
Originally Posted by Yes sir
YJ I use poly fill or wax paper but I'm really wanting an explanation on this stick thingy.
My take on this which might be totally wrong is.... some inexperienced person that wants to be a legend thought the purpose of an under all or poly fiil was to hold the pan up and decided to show everyone how clever they were and came up with what they thought was a simpler idea to do the same thing. It's the only explanation i can come up for this idea.They also figured out in their mind the fresh pine would be best because it smells good. I'm betting the "legend" can't be named because he wants to fly under the radar which would of course make it impossible to be a legend if no one knew about u.
Maybe this will get an explanation of how the stick helps the trap fire when dirt gets under the pan.

I've tried the polyfill in limited settings, and it just seams like if the set has to soak for a time the fine soil that we have will just filter into it, and will limit the pan travel too much(which could be a tuning problem I spose). The fact that we have little indication who came up with the stick seems to be either, like you stated, or just to get a conversation going, or to steer someone in the wrong direction! I like to give folks on here the benefit of the doubt, so I'll let him weigh in. Until then, I won't ponder it too much.

The OP use to go by Tofan and has posted some off the wall stuff he had no experience with before .

Re: Another tip from a legend [Re: MattLA] #7727051
11/25/22 09:38 PM
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Re: Another tip from a legend [Re: MattLA] #7727073
11/25/22 09:58 PM
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That explains it all, didnt realize that is who the OP was.

Re: Another tip from a legend [Re: Yes sir] #7727115
11/25/22 10:46 PM
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Ok, so we are trying to Build a Better Pan Cover? Plenty of very good options already mentioned. Brown coffee filters work great for me.

Re: Another tip from a legend [Re: MattLA] #7727157
11/26/22 12:21 AM
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Re: Another tip from a legend [Re: MattLA] #7727208
11/26/22 06:07 AM
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Not hijacking this thread, just 2 cents from my peanut gallery........... If you are trapping where your soil is silty clay w/o much sand, the warmer daytime temp will thaw that/any frozen soil and allow the moisture to to move up/into the filter and refreeze when the temp drops. Coffee filters are like paper towels here,,, they absorb any ground moisture above 32 degrees (even frost) and can form a shell around the trap pan then harden during colder temps for me. Rain before a cold snap is the worse for me, making them really ineffective for a dependable cover. ................................ the mike

Re: Another tip from a legend [Re: MattLA] #7727240
11/26/22 07:50 AM
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MattLA is Tofan? I wondered where he went. Figured that new electric F1fiddy may still be charging...


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Re: Another tip from a legend [Re: MattLA] #7727363
11/26/22 11:27 AM
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Unfortunately some of the old methods where deliberate to prevent competition. I know of a fella who is well respected in the trapping community. At the age of 12 the young man was looking for advice on how to trap Fox. The local fox trapper took the young man out to teach him how to catch a fox. The old trapper explain to the young man on how to make a dirt hole set. Then told him to set the trap upside down. The reason being. Fox are so clever. They new there was a trap set. So the fox would try flipping the trap. And get caught. At 12 the young man took this as gospel. Needless to say many snapped traps. This was during the early 1970s when fur prices where increasing. The young man figured he had been gullible. Figured it out on his own. Became a very profitable fox trapper. Bought a car and put himself thru college with those beautiful $100.00 fox pelts. So the age of misinformation is nothing new. Just more prevalent now. That stick in the trap jaw is a good way to catch nothing

Re: Another tip from a legend [Re: MattLA] #7727437
11/26/22 02:28 PM
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I have NEVER had a pan not trip using polyfil or a screen. I have had the jaws cement into place, even then the pan would depress. Iíve caught with polyfil under the pan and screen after 5Ē of rain.
I donít like offset traps due to a small stick or pebble getting between the jaws and creating a wider gap than whatís already there. Couldnít imagine intentionally setting something to create an even wider gap.

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