Re: Privileged
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Everyone trying to win the oppression Olympics now. There is nothing wrong with being privileged. More and more it seems like everyone just wants to be the special snow flake. And I mean eveyone...gets old. Can we go back to 2016 when it was at least funny. Good idea Wolfie.Lets go back even further to when there were no snowflakes.
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Re: Privileged
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I think by definition privilege is earned by putting forth effort and seeing reward as a result. Volunteer to donate blood and get a half day off with pay. Having wealthy caring parents is being fortunate.
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Re: Privileged
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Can we just establish exactly what we mean when we say privilege ? Are we talking about the new meaning of the woke left or the traditional meaning. Because those are two vastly different definitions Yep. Because of course, it's a privilege to have good parents, but it's got nothing to do with ethnicity. It just means you won the parent lottery.
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Re: Privileged
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Who are the "privileged" ones? . . . the parents or the child? . . . Personally, having loving and caring "parents", or responsible adults, I would consider that a blessing to either or both.
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Re: Privileged
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Everyone trying to win the oppression Olympics now. There is nothing wrong with being privileged. More and more it seems like everyone just wants to be the special snow flake. And I mean eveyone...gets old. Can we go back to 2016 when it was at least funny. This is why Anti Semitism is on the rise in the U.S. Jews have had a victim pass for everything since WWII and now other groups want the special victim status they have benefitted from for 70 years.
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Re: Privileged
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For some groups,,its more convenient for them to say " You have privilege " than it is for them to admit they just lead an irresponsible life style.
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Re: Privileged
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For some groups,,its more convient for them to say " You have privilege " than it is for them to admit they just lead an irresponsible life style. There is group privileges, we've just been told "we're all the same inside" for so long we can't admit it's not true. You'll have the odd white or Asian guy in the NBA but by and large Black guys dominate sports like Basketball, Sprinting and Distance running. Jews have a higher than average verbal IQ which is why they dominate the entertainment industry. East Asians have a higher than average visual IQ which is why there are so many Asian engineers and software coders. As a group each has privilege's however individuals do not always fit the group mold. We should be able to admit there is average group privilege's while also admitting it's a bad idea for Govt to try and level the playing field somehow.
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Re: Privileged
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For some groups,,its more convient for them to say " You have privilege " than it is for them to admit they just lead an irresponsible life style. There is group privileges, we've just been told "we're all the same inside" for so long we can't admit it's not true. You'll have the odd white or Asian guy in the NBA but by and large Black guys dominate sports like Basketball, Sprinting and Distance running. Jews have a higher than average verbal IQ which is why they dominate the entertainment industry. East Asians have a higher than average visual IQ which is why there are so many Asian engineers and software coders. As a group each has privilege's however individuals do not always fit the group mold. We should be able to admit there is average group privilege's while also admitting it's a bad idea for Govt to try and level the playing field somehow. Nail on the head
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Re: Privileged
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For some groups,,its more convient for them to say " You have privilege " than it is for them to admit they just lead an irresponsible life style. There is group privileges, we've just been told "we're all the same inside" for so long we can't admit it's not true. You'll have the odd white or Asian guy in the NBA but by and large Black guys dominate sports like Basketball, Sprinting and Distance running. Jews have a higher than average verbal IQ which is why they dominate the entertainment industry. East Asians have a higher than average visual IQ which is why there are so many Asian engineers and software coders. Those aren't privileges,,they are attributes.
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Re: Privileged
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There is group privileges, we've just been told "we're all the same inside" for so long we can't admit it's not true. You'll have the odd white or Asian guy in the NBA but by and large Black guys dominate sports like Basketball, Sprinting and Distance running.
Jews have a higher than average verbal IQ which is why they dominate the entertainment industry.
East Asians have a higher than average visual IQ which is why there are so many Asian engineers and software coders.
Those aren't privileges,,they are attributes. I would say you are correct and it's only through shifting language over the last 10 years that they've come to be seen as privilege's.
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Re: Privileged
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It looks like people are using at least 3 different definitions of the word "privilege." The answer to the original question, I think, depends on what definition you're using.
Definition 1: a special right that is given to a particular individual or group: prerogative Answer 1: No, kids are born to good parents and to bad parents. There is no legal right to good parents, and certainly not a legal right that only applies to certain individuals.
Definition 2: in the context of critical theory or "woke" ideology - an option or ability that can be obtained or achieved only by certain groups of individuals because of current or historical political/societal structures that tend (or have tended) to favor one group above another. Answer 2: No. There are and have always been systems in place that make life easier for some and harder for others, but both good and bad parents can exist in any context.
Definition 3: A feeling of blessing or special favor that doesn't actually have any legal right associated with it. This is just a figurative use of definition 1, but we don't use it in the legal sense, just to describe our feelings about something that is special to us that we perhaps didn't deserve, or that we know everyone else doesn't necessarily have. Answer 3: Yes! Not all parents are loving and caring parents. Having some that are is an invaluable blessing!
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Re: Privileged
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People who grow up in homes that have two caring & intelligent parents who know how to raise and guide a child have won the birth lottery. It has nothing to do with race/money.
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Re: Privileged
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Priveleged these days seems to be more of a jealous/covet thing.
A well worn leverage tool in socialist/communist ideology.
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Re: Privileged
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A privilege to me is as most definitions state, A right. To me, having good parents was being fortunate, not a privilege.
The rub the woke mob tries to push is, because I was fortunate enough to have good parents, I'm bestowed special privileges those less fortunate parent wise are not.
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