Two great Pyrenees have cut my daughter and son in laws bird loss to near 0. They find dead coons possums and coyotes pretty regular and several bobcats every year. They are dogs though. I suspect if they were not being fed they would eat chicken goose duck and peacock.

They had a litter of pups in the spring. They were all sold before they were weaned.

Wish that girl in Texas had this dog for the FedEx guy...

Have you ever seen a dog and multiple coyote fight? The only way that dog survived is he never quit moving always attacking. There is no safe shoot in a fight like that.

I know guy proud owner of 245 head sheep got back in sheep business 2 young GD dogs got a call had 5 dead sheep 9 other injured owner thought it was bear , coyote, ,, I went and looked it snow that nite after the attack... Nothing outside the pen , I told him either dog or young bear because it was fall but nothing was eaten. Turned out it was the 2young GD . There are death loss on critters period .
When owner say dog do not kill sheep I laugh ,,, eagle's do kill sheep either. Lol

If livestock guardian dogs commonly ate the sheep and goats they are used to protect, they very obviously would not have been used for a well documented, over 6000 year time period in most of Europe and parts of Asia and Africa.

Keith

I trap for a sheep outfit when he starts losing sheep, hasn't called in awhile took several dogs before he got some that would work. I have to stay aways back or the dogs find my coyotes and they end up deader than the fur buyer wants them!

Just as there no 100% coyote set there's not a 100% breed of dog for any purpose. I have seen plenty of papered coonhounds out of long lines of papered coonhounds that are just hounds, no coon to them. All dogs have holes but certain breeds have been carefully and selectively bred long enough to produce high percentage purpose built dogs.

Got a cousin that says the same of donkeys used for livestock protection. Got go through a few to find the ones that work.

I have seen video of a d I nkey killing a coyote and contuning to toss it around like a cat does a mouse after it was dead.

I hav watched video of live stock protection dogs shred coyotes.

But just as you said crossing 2 grand Champs of any dog does not mean the o ups will be as good or even worth feeding.

8 week old livestock guardian pup, out of Thor, having fun with Diane and I.







Keith

Those guard dogs think the sheep are family, you don't mess with family!