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Time to end labor unions #7737658
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-announce-36-billion-relief-100000375.html

I get more than a little angry at the bowing down by politicians and the fact that hard working people are forced to pay for pensions they are ineligible for, because lazy union communist sympathizers, are fawned on by the democrats they give so much dues money too.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Time to end labor unions [Re: danny clifton] #7737661
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Ridiculous.

Re: Time to end labor unions [Re: Donnersurvivor] #7737667
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Have been a long time believer that if you need a union to keep your job you are not doing your job, yes maybe 70 + years ago unions had a purpose in the work place but that purpose has been replaced with union members paying the persons of upper management that probably could not do the job of a new hire

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Re: Time to end labor unions [Re: Jingles] #7737679
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Originally Posted by Jingles
Have been a long time believer that if you need a union to keep your job you are not doing your job



If you enjoy 40hr work weeks, machine garding, overtime pay and child labor laws amount many other things thank unions.

Biden had to fo something to save face with unions after busting the RR strike I guess this is it.

Looks and sound to me like they mismanaged their pension funds like the government has SS. If so people should be in prison not getting bailed out.

Re: Time to end labor unions [Re: Providence Farm] #7737692
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
Originally Posted by Jingles
Have been a long time believer that if you need a union to keep your job you are not doing your job



If you enjoy 40hr work weeks, machine garding, overtime pay and child labor laws amount many other things thank unions.

Biden had to fo something to save face with unions after busting the RR strike I guess this is it.

Looks and sound to me like they mismanaged their pension funds like the government has SS. If so people should be in prison not getting bailed out.


May I add. Unaffordable cost due to labor rates, high taxes to support guberment contracts that only allow union workers and outsourcing of American jobs

OSHA rules apply to non union workers as well

Re: Time to end labor unions [Re: danny clifton] #7737700
12/08/22 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-announce-36-billion-relief-100000375.html

I get more than a little angry at the bowing down by politicians and the fact that hard working people are forced to pay for pensions they are ineligible for, because lazy union communist sympathizers, are fawned on by the democrats they give so much dues money too.


We're immersed in waters that have never been navigated before.
Print, print, print goes the money presses and no project is too far outta bounds when you're spending printed, printed, printed $$$$'s.
It's not even "other people's money" anymore. It's funny money. With a Fed in charge of the gas pedal in a vehicle full of happy spenders.

Greed isn't new.
But printing money as this nation has done... is.

Blessings,
Mark

Re: Time to end labor unions [Re: danny clifton] #7737705
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I thought it was illegal to buy votes.


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Re: Time to end labor unions [Re: danny clifton] #7737710
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I was self employed my entire working life. Thanks to the Administration's handling of the economy my IRA balances are down. I don't expect the taxpayers to supplement my retirement. Why should my tax money supplement the retirement funds of union members?

Re: Time to end labor unions [Re: danny clifton] #7737716
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Atleast when Republicans are in charge they pass balanced budgets and work diligently to lower debt and weed wasteful spending...

Re: Time to end labor unions [Re: danny clifton] #7737717
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Cause they support Democrats.

Re: Time to end labor unions [Re: danny clifton] #7737721
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Pensions are ponzi schemes, and are unsustainable.

Re: Time to end labor unions [Re: danny clifton] #7737722
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The problem is not the unions themselves, those are filled with good, everyday normal people. Its the union bosses and their egotistical minions that ruin everything. Unions arent there for people to keep their job, its there to prevent the company owner from being a total scumbag and taking full advantage of the workers with no real penalty.

Re: Time to end labor unions [Re: danny clifton] #7737725
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mattla, have you ever checked out a trappers site called coyotesrus?


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Time to end labor unions [Re: Rat Masterson] #7737731
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Originally Posted by Rat Masterson
Pensions are ponzi schemes, and are unsustainable.


Just like social security and medicare.

Unsustainable.

But if I start a ponzi scheme, I go to jail.


crazy


How many lies will people believe before they realize their own idiocy?
Re: Time to end labor unions [Re: danny clifton] #7737746
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I remember when workers got together and formed a workers paradise union. The Soviet Union. smile


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Re: Time to end labor unions [Re: danny clifton] #7737781
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Re: Time to end labor unions [Re: Boco] #7737786
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Get those arm muscles from standing in a circle... never mind.

Re: Time to end labor unions [Re: danny clifton] #7737797
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When I was going over the road I always knew within a few minutes if i was at a union business or not. Non union your in and out in a timely fashion. If its a union run business your there for hours. Lazy, unmotivated slackers. Hard to believe that working people are now going to pay their pensions with absolutely no benefit to those that pay.

Boco, i was a teamster from 89 to 91. I decided if I was going to work for the mafia it would be better to just sell illegal narcotics. Then I would at least make serious money and it would be honest even if illegal.

I chose neither path. Gave that job up and went back to work.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Time to end labor unions [Re: danny clifton] #7737800
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I worked union jobs most of my working life. I received some real protections and some real benefits.

It's interesting that only disgruntled T-man members are speaking up.

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Originally Posted by bobsheedy

I worked union jobs most of my working life. I received some real protections and some real benefits.

It's interesting that only disgruntled T-man members are speaking up.



We're disgruntled because we're funding the union pensions so the dems can buy votes with them.

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