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Mustangs (horse) #7762746
01/04/23 06:25 PM
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So for years I have always liked mustangs. Well I like all horses but keep coming back to mustangs. I had quarters and an applause but have not had horses in over 20 years. When I had them befor my place and land was to small and sandy I had to fed year round and well 20 years ago I was young and broke.

Today I have a nice 6 stall barn with feeding Manger for cows on the other side and hay storage down the middle with drive though ability on 96 acres.

So now I'm back to thinking I may want horses again. I'm far from ready I need new fence, trailer, and the biggest thing is time.

So now I'm beginning on research knowing it will be a year or two before I get into horses unless something unexpected happens( like a winning lottery ticket.)

My wife's uncle had a mustang and he was a great horse. Could ride him up stairs and knock on someone's door ((mine nothing like opening the door expecting a person's and find a horse with uncle Roy looking down at you with his big smile). He rode him in parades with all the noise and sirens and he would rear on command. I believe that horses would do anything he ever asked of him.

Now a about any breed can have well trained horses and I kind of like half lingers among others but I keep going back to mustangs.

I mainly just want pleasure riding trail horses. Something I can enjoy riding and if I ever go elk hunting the to do that also. Now the kids will want to show them in 4h but other than that they will be western trail horses.


Other Than my limited experience breaking horses( to many westerns as a kid and it was get a Sadler on them and hold on I know better now) and no experience with wild horses and things I need to get in place first what am I over looking and where I'd the best place to do research with accurate info?

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Re: Mustangs (horse) [Re: Providence Farm] #7762751
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Nvwrangler on here is the one to talk to. I want one, once I get my facility in order I'm going to get one from BLM. My wives friend trains them for competition and her last one cleared a 6 foot corral and escaped twice, be ready to spend some real money on fencing.

Re: Mustangs (horse) [Re: Providence Farm] #7762753
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Re: Mustangs (horse) [Re: Providence Farm] #7762755
01/04/23 06:41 PM
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Lots of guberment restrictions on 'adopting' a mustang. Much more so than adopting a child.

Fencing, feeding, and what you do with the horse, are all routinely 'checked on' by BLM goons.




Good luck.

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Re: Mustangs (horse) [Re: chas3457] #7762762
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Originally Posted by chas3457
Lots of guberment restrictions on 'adopting' a mustang. Much more so than adopting a child.

Fencing, feeding, and what you do with the horse, are all routinely 'checked on' by BLM goons.




Good luck.

Charlie


They can check but most people are never checked from my understanding.

6" fences are the main hurdle but they really are needed.
https://wildhorsesonline.blm.gov/HowToGuide

Re: Mustangs (horse) [Re: Providence Farm] #7762766
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Get the whole family into this







Less money
Less headaches
Cost you no money and no grief when parked


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Re: Mustangs (horse) [Re: Providence Farm] #7762770
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Re: Mustangs (horse) [Re: Providence Farm] #7762771
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It's my understanding 6' fence is only needed for untouched horses . Once they have been gentled (tip horse) or if it's a yearling 5' is ok. So a 30' or 40' round pin with 6' and shelter and Arena area to train should be ok? I shouldn't need the whole darm in 6"fence I don't think? But I'm still in the research faze.

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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
It's my understanding 6' fence is only needed for untouched horses . Once they have been gentled (tip horse) or if it's a yearling 5' is ok. So a 30' or 40' round pin with 6' and shelter and Arena area to train should be ok? I shouldn't need the whole darm in 6"fence I don't think? But I'm still in the research faze.


You're correct, I'm looking at getting untouched so that's what I've been researching.

Re: Mustangs (horse) [Re: AntiGov] #7762777
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Originally Posted by AntiGov
Get the whole family into this







Less money
Less headaches
Cost you no money and no grief when parked


I can't argue with you on That and will add. If you get hurt it's your own fault not becuse a pray animal spooked. No getting out or needing feed when your out of town, and no needing daily attention.

But around here Less places to ride those, lowered to the ground so view is not as nice, noisy and can't pack out a elk on one as easily.

Then again it's like picking between two guns why not get both.

Re: Mustangs (horse) [Re: Providence Farm] #7762782
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I got a friend that is a horse whisperer. Lives in New Mexico. Has caught and broke wild horses. Broke lots of domestic animals. Even worked for the White Mountain Apaches helping them gather wild horses and cattle both. If you like I will call and see if he is OK with me giving you his number.


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Re: Mustangs (horse) [Re: Donnersurvivor] #7762783
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Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
Originally Posted by Providence Farm
It's my understanding 6' fence is only needed for untouched horses . Once they have been gentled (tip horse) or if it's a yearling 5' is ok. So a 30' or 40' round pin with 6' and shelter and Arena area to train should be ok? I shouldn't need the whole darm in 6"fence I don't think? But I'm still in the research faze.


You're correct, I'm looking at getting untouched so that's what I've been researching.



I have been looking for 6' pannals that can hold up to them so they would be easier to move if i decide to later I guess I could see if I can find a bunch oil field pipe and weld up my own. But I'm wanting to price them out first. Seems like 3 to 6 k so far.

Re: Mustangs (horse) [Re: Providence Farm] #7762788
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The one time a year I'd like to have a horse would be spring horn huntin

Up high and can cross country grid alot of ground


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Re: Mustangs (horse) [Re: Providence Farm] #7762798
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If you haven't trained a horse before I would recommend a paint or quarter horse first. I trained a 2 year old paint as my first horse and I thought I was some sort of horse whisperer because of how easy it was. Next horse was a feral 6 year old and it was a major reality check.

Going straight to a mustang sounds fusterating

Re: Mustangs (horse) [Re: Providence Farm] #7762806
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Basic adoption regulations

400 sq feet per animal min
6 ft high fence with site rails middle and top, pipe or steel preferred for 2-year-old and up ungentled animals
5 ft high for 1 and under
with attached shelter Eastern states area sides with a roof

Only other rules that are readily enforced are proper hoof care and not using the animal in any way that exploits its wildness Ie bucking stock or wild horse race.

The place in the picture is selling domestic breed horses that dna says is traceable however most horses can be traced to those same markers.

I'd suggest to anyone getting there first mustang is to get a tip started animal or to adopt and work with a tip trainer to ensure success . I know some people want to make that first touch and to each their own.

Mustangs are like any other animal there are good ones , bad ones , great ones and ones that are worthless.

Feel free to PM me if you have specific questions

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Re: Mustangs (horse) [Re: Providence Farm] #7762815
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Definitely, the older they are, the more ingrained in fight/flight instincts.

Then again, I've seen unworked three to ten year old breed horses just as wild as a mustang. Not running in the wild, just standing for some years in someone's pasture eating, that's it. No training.

Mustangs are hardy, most have learned to be very sure footed and quick to observe .

For me, some can look nice , conformational wise, but most are just not my type, in looks.

It is said, that zebras and other wild horses, Asian tundra jackasses , etc., cannot be trained...well, there have been exceptions to the rule, but it takes a lot of time and work.


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Re: Mustangs (horse) [Re: Providence Farm] #7762817
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Get a broke horse. Inexperienced horse and Inexperienced horse people greatly increase the chances of serious bodily injuries and people having bad experiences and never wanting anything to do with horse again

Re: Mustangs (horse) [Re: danny clifton] #7762881
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
I got a friend that is a horse whisperer. Lives in New Mexico. Has caught and broke wild horses. Broke lots of domestic animals. Even worked for the White Mountain Apaches helping them gather wild horses and cattle both. If you like I will call and see if he is OK with me giving you his number.


Sure that would be great.

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Re: Mustangs (horse) [Re: Yes sir] #7762891
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
Get a broke horse. Inexperienced horse and Inexperienced horse people greatly increase the chances of serious bodily injuries and people having bad experiences and never wanting anything to do with horse again



I have never started with a broke one before. A lot of wisdom in your words. Years back I Just got them into a smaller pen get the saddle on them get them in the pasture and climb on and hold on if I could. But I was young and didn't know how much I didn't know. I healed up quicker and was more agile then also. Now I'm smart enough to know I don't know much, have a lot to learn and to check into things first before jumping head long into them.

First is to get everything ready and inplace and be sure I have the time to spend on them if a project.

Before that research the above, get intouch with experienced trainers to work with and learn from and also get myself some more experience and knock the 20 years of rust off.

It's not just the horses that will need training but I need training myself. 20 years ago I would not have admitted that or thought to ask for help. Age has some benefits.




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Re: Mustangs (horse) [Re: AntiGov] #7762894
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Correct.

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