Re: Photos from space show 11,000 beavers are wreaking
[Re: mike mason]
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Prehistoric beaver caused climate change, remember the Sahara Forest? Wait, I thought Egyptian loggers & foresters caused the clear cutting of the Sahara forest !!! walleyed
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Re: Photos from space show 11,000 beavers are wreaking
[Re: Dirty D]
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I find the comparison to wildfires, well, rather a poor one if they are trying to make the beavers sound bad X2. Of course the fire comparison is the climate propagandists using language to 'fan the flames' and 'turn up the heat' to further their narrative for the snowflake constituency.
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Re: Photos from space show 11,000 beavers are wreaking
[Re: silkyplainscoyot]
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Carl, thats why I don’t like progressive’s, libs, demorats, or whatever you wish to call them. They feel like they have to control every aspect of your life, or we will all die of _________________(fill in the blank). You can start with climate change. They always think (know) they are the smartest people in the room, gathering, or anyplace else they are!
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Re: Photos from space show 11,000 beavers are wreaking
[Re: OhioBoy]
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I don't see the scientific connection that climate change has caused this. I don't get it. This is beaver change. It could have easily been trapped in the 70's and not in the 2010's.
Still interesting though. I imagine thats what the US lower looked like at some point not too long ago. The "scientific connection" isn't that the beaver are causing climate change, but that climate change is now allowing willow brush to grow farther north. It's not just beaver that are moving north, but moose are moving northward also. Northward advancement of moose in Alaska has been documented since the 1950's.
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Re: Photos from space show 11,000 beavers are wreaking
[Re: silkyplainscoyot]
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I have trapped beaver under two feet of ice. Chop a hole in front of the lodge. Poke around with a pole, find a run, chop another hole, put in a 330, catch one or two. Then I heard about under ice snaring. Chop one hole between the lodge and feed pile. Put snares on a fresh piece of willow and stick it in. They come to you in late winter. feed pile looks immense sticking through the ice. Cut a hole lay down on your belly. Lean down in the hole and look around. Its not that immense come late winter. Still takes awhile but more efficient. Get plenty of marten and cat bait. Fresh shot prairie dogs work just as good BTW. Cutting ice with a chain saw works but its hard on the chain and bar. You get pretty wet too.
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Re: Photos from space show 11,000 beavers are wreaking
[Re: danny clifton]
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I have trapped beaver under two feet of ice. Chop a hole in front of the lodge. Poke around with a pole, find a run, chop another hole, put in a 330, catch one or two. Then I heard about under ice snaring. Chop one hole between the lodge and feed pile. Put snares on a fresh piece of willow and stick it in. They come to you in late winter. feed pile looks immense sticking through the ice. Cut a hole lay down on your belly. Lean down in the hole and look around. Its not that immense come late winter. Still takes awhile but more efficient. Get plenty of marten and cat bait. Fresh shot prairie dogs work just as good BTW. Cutting ice with a chain saw works but its hard on the chain and bar. You get pretty wet too. It starts with the snow shoveling to possibly see if the lodge is even active if you can wallow through the snow. There is a feed pile somewhere under that snow. Hopefully you can figure out which side of the lodge the creek or pond is, at least here. PS Don't forget your shovel for when it a blows in again.
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Re: Photos from space show 11,000 beavers are wreaking
[Re: silkyplainscoyot]
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"There's not even a lot of other animals that leave a footprint you can see from space," Ken Tape, an ecologist at the University of Alaska Fairbanks, told Insider. "There is one, and they're called humans."I guess he has never seen this place from space. Dead spruce are laying everywhere from an animal called bark beetles. I had trails, now I have log jams of dead branchy spruce.
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Re: Photos from space show 11,000 beavers are wreaking
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I’d like to see a photo from 1880 or even better 1780. lol Would you settle for a scrawling on a stone tablet? PHOTO from 1780. Priceless!
I have nothing clever to put here.
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Re: Photos from space show 11,000 beavers are wreaking
[Re: silkyplainscoyot]
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That's why I said in the beginning, I knew a lot of interesting thoughts would be inspired about this.
When "climate change" is mentioned, even time after time, it raises my hackles in warning of the sources claiming it. It's a red flag for me , anymore.
Waggler had a good perspective, as do others.
Animals don't conspire to change anything. They just do what they do.
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Re: Photos from space show 11,000 beavers are wreaking
[Re: silkyplainscoyot]
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JMHO The earth is going to do as it pleases. If the earth wants to make Alaska the new Flordia , it will no amount of taxes is going to stop it! Electric cars and trucks , eletric anything and everything isn't doing anything to change that !There's proof that at least once in the past , the north and south poles switched . So if the earth can do that , there's not a thing man can do to stop it! Look how far the north pole has moved since 1904 . https://gisgeography.com/magnetic-north-vs-geographic-true-pole/
We have met the enemy and the enemy is us!
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Re: Photos from space show 11,000 beavers are wreaking
[Re: yotetrapper30]
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What's wrong with you Alaskan T-maner's letting the beaver take over your state like that? LOL Once you realize how big Alaska is, it makes a lot more sense. Alaska is absolutely massive and glen Allen is so goofy remote . No one really cares about the Beavers. Other than few random people on trapperman. Yes, I have been to Glen Allen.
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Re: Photos from space show 11,000 beavers are wreaking
[Re: silkyplainscoyot]
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01/06/23 08:05 AM
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The religion of global climatology is rapidly growing and the faithful are joining in droves around this world. Summits here. More summits there. Everywhere the climate religious gather to worship their god, which is themselves.
Me and mine will stay firmly planted in the faith that in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. The earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the waters. Then God said, “Let there be light”; and there was light.
And God is still in charge of all of it. Not any of us who are His creation. Donna and I will again today, as we do each day we trap, thank the Lord for His creation which we get to trap in.
Blessings! Mark
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Re: Photos from space show 11,000 beavers are wreaking
[Re: silkyplainscoyot]
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The whole "it can be seen from space" isn't really the big deal it used to be anyways. Pretty much anything can be seen from space with Google Earth now. I can zoom in on my house and see my dog in the yard. If you look at my place in April you'll see a lush green pasture. Look again in August and you'll see a what looks like a barren landscape after the horses graze it off.
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Re: Photos from space show 11,000 beavers are wreaking
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The whole "it can be seen from space" isn't really the big deal it used to be anyways. Pretty much anything can be seen from space with Google Earth now. I can zoom in on my house and see my dog in the yard. If you look at my place in April you'll see a lush green pasture. Look again in August and you'll see a what looks like a barren landscape after the horses graze it off. Most of the high-res (so you can see those details) are from aerial photography and not satellites, at least in the conterminous U.S., because programs such as USDA's NAIP photography is flown every year (or almost every year). Just a technical quibble, if its satellite or aerial based, it all fits under the term and study of "remote sensing".
"And God said, Let us make man in our image �and let them have dominion �and all the creatures that move along the ground". Genesis 1:26
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