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evidence of evolution or nonsense? #7772793
01/15/23 01:08 PM
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Re: evidence of evolution or nonsense? [Re: danny clifton] #7772794
01/15/23 01:11 PM
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Micro-evolution? Adaptation? Sure. They have turned into birds yet though.

Re: evidence of evolution or nonsense? [Re: danny clifton] #7772833
01/15/23 02:10 PM
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Adaptation yes.Evolution no such thing.

Re: evidence of evolution or nonsense? [Re: danny clifton] #7772866
01/15/23 02:42 PM
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Joke, that's not evolution.

Re: evidence of evolution or nonsense? [Re: danny clifton] #7772868
01/15/23 02:44 PM
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Adaption and evolution seem pretty close to the same thing here.

Re: evidence of evolution or nonsense? [Re: danny clifton] #7772871
01/15/23 02:46 PM
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Marines are created they also adapt and overcome,,, that’s not evoloution


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Re: evidence of evolution or nonsense? [Re: danny clifton] #7772883
01/15/23 03:01 PM
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If coyotes can adapt and thrive in urban settings we shouldn't be surprised that lizzards can. Yet global warming alarmists don't think animals are able adapt to minor changes in temperature.

Re: evidence of evolution or nonsense? [Re: danny clifton] #7772885
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Coyotes are still coyotes. These lizards have changed physically.


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Re: evidence of evolution or nonsense? [Re: danny clifton] #7772890
01/15/23 03:07 PM
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If their bodies are physically changing it’s evolution.

Re: evidence of evolution or nonsense? [Re: danny clifton] #7772892
01/15/23 03:07 PM
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It's still a lizard, right?
Matter of fact, it's still a crested anole specifically, right?

Nothing has "evolved" here.

Get back to us when a crested anole hatches out a horse or dog or a new form of life.


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Re: evidence of evolution or nonsense? [Re: danny clifton] #7772897
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I dont think its described like that Warrior. The description is change over time. Not instantly. For instance these lizards have got different scales and longer legs than their forest counterparts. at least according to the article.


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Re: evidence of evolution or nonsense? [Re: danny clifton] #7772904
01/15/23 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Coyotes are still coyotes. These lizards have changed physically.


Yes, the urban coyote changes are mostly behavioral, but I wouldn't be surprised to see some physiological change as well over time. Perhaps a better example is the difference between a Montana coyote and a Minnesota coyote. There is a define physical difference. Is it adaptation or evolution?

Re: evidence of evolution or nonsense? [Re: danny clifton] #7772906
01/15/23 03:21 PM
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Ah, I see then dogs are evolving as are chickens.

Evolution rests on the false supposition of speciation in which one species, defined as genetically distinct and isolate from all other species, will eventually give rise to other genetically distinct and isolate lifeforms under selective pressures.

So I again ask, just how are these anoles genetically distinct and isolate from their parental stock?


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Re: evidence of evolution or nonsense? [Re: danny clifton] #7772911
01/15/23 03:26 PM
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I dont know warrior. I just read the article. It says :
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The study analyzed 96 Anolis cristatellus lizards, comparing the genetic makeup of forest-dwellers to those living in Puerto Rico's capital, San Juan, as well as the northern city of Arecibo and western city of Mayaguez. Scientists found that 33 genes within the lizard genome were repeatedly associated with urbanization.


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Re: evidence of evolution or nonsense? [Re: danny clifton] #7772920
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ok, who remembers before the lizard had those special scales?

Re: evidence of evolution or nonsense? [Re: danny clifton] #7772928
01/15/23 03:54 PM
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Simplified, evolution is adaption over the course of many generations. Its how mother nature works. If you are looking for things that just go "poof" and materialize on a Wednesday afternoon, then you'll have to look in the direction of religions. They have books, where miracles happen all the time. wink


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Re: evidence of evolution or nonsense? [Re: danny clifton] #7772954
01/15/23 04:15 PM
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What a great design; that God created living things that have the ability to adapt and even mutate.
Science still has no explanation for where life came from. And please don't bring up the long debunked " lightning in an ammonia rich atmosphere" idea.


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Re: evidence of evolution or nonsense? [Re: danny clifton] #7772972
01/15/23 04:31 PM
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The oldest Anolis lizard skin is probably in the Smithsonian, anybody close that can go check for scales?

Re: evidence of evolution or nonsense? [Re: danny clifton] #7772987
01/15/23 04:59 PM
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Nature allows some creatures to specifically evolve in order for that species to adapt to their environment, survival, or population. Monitor Lizards are a prime example as are many others. :-)


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Re: evidence of evolution or nonsense? [Re: danny clifton] #7772991
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A lizard is a lizard, remember the old growth spotted owl?


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