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Re: Why does god make it so difficult to believe inhim [Re: foxkidd44] #7775383
01/18/23 09:13 AM
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It's hard to believe in God because we can't get self out of the way.

Re: Why does god make it so difficult to believe inhim [Re: foxkidd44] #7775386
01/18/23 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by foxkidd44
The devil makes himself quite known,,, especially when he possesses people.. and ghosts ( from my understanding) are demonic entities. They have been captured on audio, and video. And my daughter witnessed something ominous when she saw an 8 foot shadow figure at one of the places she used to work.

Why doesn’t god present himself as readily? Am I missing something from the Bible?



Well let's go through some of this fairy tale shall we?! He sets up a trap for mankind to forever be in his pocket. Remember before the apple Adam and Eve don't know about evil so to understand what they were doing was wrong is all on God's hands. Screws us right away, shows he is evil.

God drowns all living things because humans weren't bowing down to him enough. His view of wickedness is often described as not listening to him and even if everyone was stealing and raping and murdering it's not an excuse to drown innocent children. He kills little children by drowning them...do you really want to justify that?

God habitually either commits genocide or tells his chosen people that it's his will that they commit it. He dictates that they should kill all their enemies and keep the young virgin women for themselves (ie sex slaves). Genocide, slavery and rape all in one!

He kills children who make fun of prophets by having them eaten by bears. Would you explain how a benevolent god does that?

He populates the planet twice through incest. And then supports family lines who do it again (see Lot's daughters).

He is the creator of evil. There is no need for childhood terminal cancer. That's purely just being an (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) for no purpose.

He teaches lessons through tormenting, and torturing people. Why he allowed Job to be treated like (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) to win a bet against Satan....makes Yahweh look like the evil one to me.

He requires worship in both blood sacrifice and genital mutilation. Being the creator of the universe he could have stopped all that from the first time so claiming it was cultural shows your god is weak.

He not only condones slavery but sets up laws on how to trick your slaves and how to beat them. He is the creator of the universe so he could have said that owning people I never ok regardless of it being cultural. It shows your god is evil or weak. You pick.

And the worst part of all...he does all this and then allows his followers to come here and justify his evil acts. You should feel ashamed of yourself for even attempting to make any of this sound good. I'd say supporting evil like that is un-Christian of you but it's not. The religion itself is really just a cult following a bronze age myth which uses hellfire to force naive people into supporting evil acts they justify as divinely moral.

Read your Bible, cover to cover instead of reading it like a buffet, it's the worst horror story ever written by man.

Re: Why does god make it so difficult to believe inhim [Re: foxkidd44] #7775394
01/18/23 09:32 AM
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Morning lucifer. lol


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Re: Why does god make it so difficult to believe inhim [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7775415
01/18/23 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
Morning lucifer. lol

He sure got worked up over a fairytale.

Re: Why does god make it so difficult to believe inhim [Re: foxkidd44] #7775426
01/18/23 10:06 AM
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Sure sounds like he's a little scared of this "fairy tale". Turn up the heat things are going to get hot! Lol


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Re: Why does god make it so difficult to believe inhim [Re: foxkidd44] #7775436
01/18/23 10:16 AM
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FoxKIDD44, I am sorry you've been through hard times. I have experienced suffering too in our fallen world. God mourns with us and hears our prayers. Lean into creation and nature, we are surrounded by evidence of God and intelligent design

Re: Why does god make it so difficult to believe inhim [Re: Tommyran] #7775469
01/18/23 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Tommyran
Read your Bible, cover to cover instead of reading it like a buffet, it's the worst horror story ever written by man.

Thanks Tommyran, I agree with this last statement. You know your Bible stories well, and you're right, those things are difficult and any serious Bible-reader needs to reckon with all of that. Not sure this particular thread is the right place, though.

Foxkidd, I'm sorry things are difficult now. I'm still praying for you, and I hope things improve. Plenty of good advice on the thread. The only things I'd add are that becoming a Christ follower doesn't cause one's life to become easier. If anything, it's the opposite. Difficulty does not mean that you're on the wrong path or that God isn't there. Sometimes difficulty is the means by which God draws you nearer. Even though you currently can't sense God's presence, I suggest that you double-down on the core Christian practices: prayer, scripture reading, community, and Sabbath. Stick to those as you go through the darkness, and your faith will be stronger on the far side. If you don't know what to pray, try praying some psalms. The 23rd may be a good one for you now.

Re: Why does god make it so difficult to believe inhim [Re: ] #7775521
01/18/23 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by J Staton
It's hard to believe in God because we can't get self out of the way.

It's hard for many to believe in God because they are thinking as material human beings.
For humans, even believers, God surpasses anything we are capable of imagining.
There are no other gods like God who is like Him.


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Re: Why does god make it so difficult to believe inhim [Re: Tommyran] #7775588
01/18/23 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Tommyran
Originally Posted by foxkidd44
The devil makes himself quite known,,, especially when he possesses people.. and ghosts ( from my understanding) are demonic entities. They have been captured on audio, and video. And my daughter witnessed something ominous when she saw an 8 foot shadow figure at one of the places she used to work.

Why doesn’t god present himself as readily? Am I missing something from the Bible?



Well let's go through some of this fairy tale shall we?! He sets up a trap for mankind to forever be in his pocket. Remember before the apple Adam and Eve don't know about evil so to understand what they were doing was wrong is all on God's hands. Screws us right away, shows he is evil.

God drowns all living things because humans weren't bowing down to him enough. His view of wickedness is often described as not listening to him and even if everyone was stealing and raping and murdering it's not an excuse to drown innocent children. He kills little children by drowning them...do you really want to justify that?

God habitually either commits genocide or tells his chosen people that it's his will that they commit it. He dictates that they should kill all their enemies and keep the young virgin women for themselves (ie sex slaves). Genocide, slavery and rape all in one!

He kills children who make fun of prophets by having them eaten by bears. Would you explain how a benevolent god does that?

He populates the planet twice through incest. And then supports family lines who do it again (see Lot's daughters).

He is the creator of evil. There is no need for childhood terminal cancer. That's purely just being an (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) for no purpose.

He teaches lessons through tormenting, and torturing people. Why he allowed Job to be treated like (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) to win a bet against Satan....makes Yahweh look like the evil one to me.

He requires worship in both blood sacrifice and genital mutilation. Being the creator of the universe he could have stopped all that from the first time so claiming it was cultural shows your god is weak.

He not only condones slavery but sets up laws on how to trick your slaves and how to beat them. He is the creator of the universe so he could have said that owning people I never ok regardless of it being cultural. It shows your god is evil or weak. You pick.

And the worst part of all...he does all this and then allows his followers to come here and justify his evil acts. You should feel ashamed of yourself for even attempting to make any of this sound good. I'd say supporting evil like that is un-Christian of you but it's not. The religion itself is really just a cult following a bronze age myth which uses hellfire to force naive people into supporting evil acts they justify as divinely moral.

Read your Bible, cover to cover instead of reading it like a buffet, it's the worst horror story ever written by man.




Hmmm. Not sure where the Bible says it was an "apple". It doesn't identify the fruit ate.

Re: Why does god make it so difficult to believe inhim [Re: foxkidd44] #7775594
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Stop asking others to do for you what you should be doing for yourself. Believe in yourself first.


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Re: Why does god make it so difficult to believe inhim [Re: Tommyran] #7775798
01/18/23 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Tommyran
Originally Posted by foxkidd44
The devil makes himself quite known,,, especially when he possesses people.. and ghosts ( from my understanding) are demonic entities. They have been captured on audio, and video. And my daughter witnessed something ominous when she saw an 8 foot shadow figure at one of the places she used to work.

Why doesn’t god present himself as readily? Am I missing something from the Bible?



Well let's go through some of this fairy tale shall we?! He sets up a trap for mankind to forever be in his pocket. Remember before the apple Adam and Eve don't know about evil so to understand what they were doing was wrong is all on God's hands. Screws us right away, shows he is evil.

God drowns all living things because humans weren't bowing down to him enough. His view of wickedness is often described as not listening to him and even if everyone was stealing and raping and murdering it's not an excuse to drown innocent children. He kills little children by drowning them...do you really want to justify that?

God habitually either commits genocide or tells his chosen people that it's his will that they commit it. He dictates that they should kill all their enemies and keep the young virgin women for themselves (ie sex slaves). Genocide, slavery and rape all in one!

He kills children who make fun of prophets by having them eaten by bears. Would you explain how a benevolent god does that?

He populates the planet twice through incest. And then supports family lines who do it again (see Lot's daughters).

He is the creator of evil. There is no need for childhood terminal cancer. That's purely just being an (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) for no purpose.

He teaches lessons through tormenting, and torturing people. Why he allowed Job to be treated like (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) to win a bet against Satan....makes Yahweh look like the evil one to me.

He requires worship in both blood sacrifice and genital mutilation. Being the creator of the universe he could have stopped all that from the first time so claiming it was cultural shows your god is weak.

He not only condones slavery but sets up laws on how to trick your slaves and how to beat them. He is the creator of the universe so he could have said that owning people I never ok regardless of it being cultural. It shows your god is evil or weak. You pick.

And the worst part of all...he does all this and then allows his followers to come here and justify his evil acts. You should feel ashamed of yourself for even attempting to make any of this sound good. I'd say supporting evil like that is un-Christian of you but it's not. The religion itself is really just a cult following a bronze age myth which uses hellfire to force naive people into supporting evil acts they justify as divinely moral.

Read your Bible, cover to cover instead of reading it like a buffet, it's the worst horror story ever written by man.


I think it's sad you interpret scripture the way you do , it's clear you have a stake in what you have posted. Or you wouldn't have voiced you're opinion with such zeal. I wouldn't want to try to guess what the motive is of someone who would read the Bible cover to cover and not see the broad picture, or atliest see it in such darkness. We are all entitled to our beliefs, I thank God we live in a country we're we have that right . A country that is founded on Christian values. IN GOD WE TRUST. I will pray for you


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