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Re: Excess Deaths [Re: Dirt] #7781126
01/24/23 12:58 PM
01/24/23 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirt
You do realize hospitals were losing money because their regular patients were not allowed to be treated. You can lose money because of the government, or you can offset the loss by taking government money for covid. How many of you burned your government checks even though many of you were not financially impacted by the government response to covid?

The hospitals doing this certainly skewed the data.

The question is did profit outweigh patients lives with hospital administration? Ventilator equaled 35 grand and administering remdeathisnear equaled 20 percent extra of the total bill even when given to patients, such as my brother, well past the time for the effectiveness of said early treatment.


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Re: Excess Deaths [Re: Dirt] #7781149
01/24/23 01:26 PM
01/24/23 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirt
How many of you burned your government checks even though many of you were not financially impacted by the government response to covid?


I didnít burn the checks, I gave them away. I donít want any stinking government handouts.


Eh...wot?

Re: Excess Deaths [Re: Dirt] #7781177
01/24/23 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirt
You do realize hospitals were losing money because their regular patients were not allowed to be treated. You can lose money because of the government, or you can offset the loss by taking government money for covid. How many of you burned your government checks even though many of you were not financially impacted by the government response to covid?

The hospitals doing this certainly skewed the data.


Hmm, Im not so sure about the losing money part. Had a hunter that managed a bunch of hospitals in Texas last fall. He said they made money hand over fist during the covid years. When i asked him if the payments from the Feds for every covid patient might have skewed the overall numbers he just smiled.

The entire payment system during covid was a made in heaven deal for a lot of hospitals. The more positive tests they had the more money they made. What could possibly go wrong with that??

They are reporting now that employment insurance lost 60 billion during covid, most of it scammed. Who's paying that back?


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Re: Excess Deaths [Re: Chancey] #7781229
01/24/23 03:48 PM
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At this point, the only "fringe minority" are those who still trust this government

Re: Excess Deaths [Re: Chancey] #7781244
01/24/23 04:16 PM
01/24/23 04:16 PM
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Just read every post on this thread and there are some really sad and unfortunate circumstances for many.

My wife, kids and I did not take the Covid vaccines for several reasons, many of which have been mentioned already.

Kids all ended up testing positive, mild symptoms, over it in a few days. Wife tested positive shortly after the kids, not bad the first week, but the 2nd week she got hit hard. Lots of brain fog, very emotional, weak, no energy and loss of taste and smell. She got through it like most everyone else but "hair loss" has been a continuing battle for her. She said it was the worst she ever felt. Obviously I was in "close contact", but tested three separate times and never was positive. I guess I contracted it at some point because I realized I had lost my smell after trying to help my wife "retrain" her sense of smell with essential oils. This was months after she got over it. Her grandmother was in a nursing home when this all jumped off so she had to get vaccinated, she died a couple weeks later. They are all convinced the vaccine was responsible for her death. My niece developed Bells Palsy months after her vaccination, but she seems healthy otherwise.

There is no doubt Covid killed people, but I think you heard more about the "healthy" ones dying which helped build the fear around this virus. I talked to countless parents that "had" to get their kids vaxxed to save them from the virus.

I took some ridicule at work about not taking it when it was offered, I didnt sweat it though..

"Safe and effective" LIE
Get vaxxed and you cant catch Covid LIE
Get vaxxed and you cant transmit Covid LIE
Natural immunity IS NOT enough LIE
Vaccine provides more protection than natural immunity LIE

Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine are NOT safe LIE
Remdesevir is safe LIE

Pfizer wanted 75 years to turn over research docs..... TRUE

We could go on and on....

Re: Excess Deaths [Re: Chancey] #7781278
01/24/23 05:06 PM
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People laugh but lots of Southern folks take it = as a proventitive measurement

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Re: Excess Deaths [Re: Chancey] #7781291
01/24/23 05:30 PM
01/24/23 05:30 PM
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This is like the ignorance Olympics around here lol

No 7% of people that are boxed arenít hospitalized.

Died suddenly is a joke. With many of the ďvictimsĒ family literally coming out to comment that there family members werenít even vaxxed. Also many of the people that just collapsed had other completely unrelated heath issues.


Excess deaths are far higher is states with LOW vaccines rates.


Think beyond right or left don't be guilty of group think.
Re: Excess Deaths [Re: steeltraps] #7781293
01/24/23 05:31 PM
01/24/23 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by steeltraps
People laugh but lots of Southern folks take it = as a proventitive measurement

There is a reason the south lost the war. This is it


Think beyond right or left don't be guilty of group think.
Re: Excess Deaths [Re: Chancey] #7781294
01/24/23 05:33 PM
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So don't get boxed, I guess?

Re: Excess Deaths [Re: steeltraps] #7781298
01/24/23 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by steeltraps
People laugh but lots of Southern folks take it = as a proventitive measurement


I do the same steeltraps.

Re: Excess Deaths [Re: WANNABE-TRAPPER] #7781300
01/24/23 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by WANNABE-TRAPPER
Originally Posted by steeltraps
People laugh but lots of Southern folks take it = as a proventitive measurement

There is a reason the south lost the war. This is it

Beat we dont lose the next 1 Only reason the South lost the first time was = lack of fire power. Thata has changed now. We have LOTS of AR 15s and Ammo now! LoL!

Re: Excess Deaths [Re: Chancey] #7781321
01/24/23 06:05 PM
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I think the same problem will resurface if there is another. Lack of resupply. Government forces will likely get aid from Europe. If it happens, the snakes head needs cut off in the first few days.

Lincoln sat up on a hill watching the battle at Gettysburg and nobody thought to concentrate all their cannon fire there


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Excess Deaths [Re: danny clifton] #7781326
01/24/23 06:10 PM
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Covid. Abortion. Gun Control. I am afraid 1 of the 3 may lead us into civil war. But then again. We have so many issues we are divided on. Shame. People cant just mind their own bussiness and let others take care of thereís

Re: Excess Deaths [Re: Chancey] #7781343
01/24/23 06:31 PM
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Sadly I don't believe any of the three letter gov. agencies as they have all been guilty of lying to the people of USA and the world. When people start going to prison I'll start to listen.

Re: Excess Deaths [Re: Rat Masterson] #7781351
01/24/23 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Rat Masterson
Sadly I don't believe any of the three letter gov. agencies as they have all been guilty of lying to the people of USA and the world. When people start going to prison I'll start to listen.


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Re: Excess Deaths [Re: danny clifton] #7781352
01/24/23 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
I think the same problem will resurface if there is another. Lack of resupply. Government forces will likely get aid from Europe. If it happens, the snakes head needs cut off in the first few days.

Lincoln sat up on a hill watching the battle at Gettysburg and nobody thought to concentrate all their cannon fire there


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Re: Excess Deaths [Re: Chancey] #7781420
01/24/23 07:59 PM
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Re: Excess Deaths [Re: spjones] #7781637
01/24/23 11:47 PM
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The next twelve months will be interesting to see how all this plays out.

Re: Excess Deaths [Re: yotetrapper30] #7781650
01/24/23 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30


All of my immediate family is unvaxxed. All except for me and Pete have had COVID, some of them multiple times. ALL are very high risk. None have had symptoms any worse than a cold. My dad caught it the first time a couple weeks after lung surgery. My mom has COPD and a host of other health issues. My Stepdad has COPD and sarcoidosis of the lungs. My grandmother is in her upper 80s. And they were all fine. My dad's brother got jabbed and has been in and out of the hospital constantly for all sorts of issues ever since.

My mom and stepdad currently have Covid again but so far so good.


Well 24 hours later, (Day 5 for stepdad and Day 3 for Mom).... Step-dad going back to work tomorrow, Mom said she feels pretty much normal. Both very high risk, unvaxxed.

Last edited by yotetrapper30; 01/24/23 11:59 PM.

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Re: Excess Deaths [Re: spjones] #7781706
01/25/23 02:21 AM
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Originally Posted by spjones
Iíll choose the tinfoil hat over the blindfold every time

Love this


Matthew 7:6 KJV
Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine....
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