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Re: First Time Trapper help on supplies [Re: Boco] #7783127 01/26/23 05:13 PM 01/26/23 05:13 PM
Joined: Sep 2013 Green County Wisconsin G GREENCOUNTYPETE trapper
GREENCOUNTYPETE trapper G Joined: Sep 2013 Green County Wisconsin	Originally Posted by Boco You can wax with the wax on the top of the black water,but you will get some moisture trapped under the wax .Not a big deal if you wax each year. I wax snares and traps so I want the wax to be hotter than 212c to boil out any water left inside the snares and get into the spaces between the strands (you know all the water is driven out when the wax stops sizzeling in about 30 seconds or so).I leave my snares out on the line(closed and hung on a stub) for several years sometimes since I dont activate all the jackpots every year,some are on a 3 year rotation and they dont rot from the inside when waxed this way. Traps too will get a thinner harder more complete coating of wax if the wax is hotter than 212 with no water trapped in the crevices or under the wax. I want my wax hot enough so it is not starting to smoke. You can do what is easier or what works for your own situation. Whatever way you do it protects your investment and lubricates your equipment to make it more efficient.Bodygrips especially are much more efficient for certain species when waxed. you don't want your wax hotter than 212c that would be around flash temperature of wax 227c water boils at 212 F 100c so hotter than water boils but less than smoke , smoke happens a little before flash Boco probably just got his C and F confused , lost in translation and all Last edited by GREENCOUNTYPETE; 01/26/23 05:17 PM. America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.

Re: First Time Trapper help on supplies [Re: hogg0494] #7783130 01/26/23 05:15 PM 01/26/23 05:15 PM
Joined: Aug 2011 james bay frontierOnt. B Boco trapper
Boco trapper B Joined: Aug 2011 james bay frontierOnt.	Yea any old pots will do for boiling and waxing,as long as they are big enough for what you do at a time,and dont leak. Keep a lid handy for the wax pot incase it catches fire-you can smother it. If your waxing on an open fire,have a couple cinder blocks set up like a hearth so you can move the wax pail away from the fire if the wax starts to smoke. Once the wax starts to smoke it is too hot and getting near its flash point. Another alternative to an open fire is a wood stove set up outside. Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.

Re: First Time Trapper help on supplies [Re: hogg0494] #7783355 01/26/23 09:23 PM 01/26/23 09:23 PM
Joined: Nov 2007 St. Cloud, MN trapperkeck trapper
trapperkeck trapper Joined: Nov 2007 St. Cloud, MN	Originally Posted by hogg0494 Great info everyone.Wouldn’t spray can paint give off a odor?I am leaning to the dye & wax,My son(15)is very interested in trapping with me.We hunt together and I think getting him out of the house and spending quality time with him doing the whole dye & wax would be great.So any old pots or some cheap ones at goodwill or Walmart is fine,stainless steel or aluminum no difference? Because of your situation, sharing an ancient tradition and practice with your son, I recommend the the tried and true way to treat your traps. Dye in a boiling, logwood dye solution, then wax in a separate pot. I've used about any metal pot with a wood fire and a grate for dying and an aluminum turkey fryer pot with propane burner for a wax pot. There is nothing in the world that can replicate the smells of fall like a pot of traps boiling over a wood fire. "The voice of reason!"

Re: First Time Trapper help on supplies [Re: hogg0494] #7783392 01/26/23 09:45 PM 01/26/23 09:45 PM
Joined: May 2018 SW Georgia W Wanna Be trapper
Wanna Be trapper W Joined: May 2018 SW Georgia	MTP has a starter kit with 6 MB550’s and all associated gear. If I wanted to get to trapping I’d wash them with Dawn dish soap and add anchors with quick links and get to setting. I’ve interviewed every critter I’ve caught and none have cared if the trap was boiled, dyed, waxed, dipped, or still shiny new. They all agreed it made no difference to them because they never knew a trap was buried there. I’d do all the “whatever” work you want to do to them during everyone’s off season.

Re: First Time Trapper help on supplies [Re: hogg0494] #7783585 01/27/23 12:55 AM 01/27/23 12:55 AM
Joined: Dec 2020 Wisconsin Scott__aR trapper
Scott__aR trapper Joined: Dec 2020 Wisconsin	Originally Posted by hogg0494 Great info everyone.Wouldn’t spray can paint give off a odor? To answer your question, yes while the aerosol propellants/solvents are off-gassing. Once the paint is dry, not just set; you are good. I don't paint when the temp is under 60° with a low humidity; so that off-gassing is fairly rapid. You'll find varying opinions on odor control. Dyed and wax traps have odors also. I fully support your father/son activity thinking. My son still does the dye and wax because that's the way we did it when he was young and he also likes the activity with his son now. But it's funny, when I suggest I could bring my couple of hundred traps over and they could dye and wax traps for me right along with their traps, there is a lot of silence. LoL. At my age, I have gone the easy way with assembly line painting: either rattle can for touch up or Rust-O-Leum/acetone dip for full coverage. Both land and water traps. Megapredator ... top of the food chain! Member of WTA Member of U.P. Trappers Member of NTA Member of FTA

Re: First Time Trapper help on supplies [Re: hogg0494] #7783598 01/27/23 01:18 AM 01/27/23 01:18 AM
Joined: Jun 2010 Iowa ~ADC~ The Count
~ADC~ The Count Joined: Jun 2010 Iowa	Two coffee cans on a camp stove is all you need for that few traps. Boil them one at a time 5 min each. Wax them one at a time in the other can. You'll need less wax that way as well. Just let them dry good before going into the wax. You can use a cheap thermometer in the wax and run it around 250 degrees and leave the trap submerged until all the bubbling stops, maybe 2-3 min. www.iowatrapperstalk.com

Re: First Time Trapper help on supplies [Re: hogg0494] #7786317 01/30/23 12:47 AM 01/30/23 12:47 AM
Joined: Jan 2023 New York H hogg0494 OP trapper
hogg0494 OP trapper H Joined: Jan 2023 New York	Great info. Thanks all

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