Re: Securing DPs
[Re: HoosierTrapper07]
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01/31/23 04:00 PM
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20" rebar 1/2" diameter. Nut or washer tops. Stake where they can't reach nothing such as near deer feeders and trails on firm ground.
4' to 6' cable extensions. 3/32" 7x7. Crimped loop on both ends. 1/8" quick link to attach to trap chain end swivel. Half hitch to trees along stream edges where my stakes won't hold.
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Re: Securing DPs
[Re: ~ADC~]
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02/01/23 06:29 AM
02/01/23 06:29 AM
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24" 3/8" nut top stakes work great in our soil. Easy to move regularly, which is important with DPs IMO. Move them ever 3-4 days to new untapped locations. I use these along with T's this year is the first time I have ever had a coon jack out a stake this long 3 of them to be exact and can't figure out what happened and not theft but each one came after a real heavy rain and I don't check till after noon since I work nights one I could see but not 3 things happen I guess... Jon
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Re: Securing DPs
[Re: jalstat]
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02/01/23 07:16 AM
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24" 3/8" nut top stakes work great in our soil. Easy to move regularly, which is important with DPs IMO. Move them ever 3-4 days to new untapped locations. I use these along with T's this year is the first time I have ever had a coon jack out a stake this long 3 of them to be exact and can't figure out what happened and not theft but each one came after a real heavy rain and I don't check till after noon since I work nights one I could see but not 3 things happen I guess... Jon Soft ground and if the animal can get above the stake, this can happen.
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Re: Securing DPs
[Re: jalstat]
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02/01/23 09:20 AM
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24" 3/8" nut top stakes work great in our soil. Easy to move regularly, which is important with DPs IMO. Move them ever 3-4 days to new untapped locations. I use these along with T's this year is the first time I have ever had a coon jack out a stake this long 3 of them to be exact and can't figure out what happened and not theft but each one came after a real heavy rain and I don't check till after noon since I work nights one I could see but not 3 things happen I guess... Jon jalsat, were the ones that got pulled the nut on top or T on top? And what do you use for the rod to go through on the end of your chain?
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Re: Securing DPs
[Re: HoosierTrapper07]
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02/01/23 10:02 AM
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If you are using a regular swivel like this with the single J hook, I am surprised you have not had more problems. This is a classic pump the stake scenario due to the small amout of clearance around the stake, ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2023/02/full-17165-167068-shopping.png) I use the following with a 3/8" rebar stake. The hole is large enough that it does not bind up on the rod as easily as the regular swivel shown above so pumping the stake is not an issue. ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2023/02/full-17165-167070-images.jpg)
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Re: Securing DPs
[Re: HoosierTrapper07]
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02/01/23 04:22 PM
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ADC,in general I agree with you about coons not jumping a lot but there are always exceptions and extenuating circumstances. In NC, we have a max chain length to a solid anchor and it is only 8", and that is shorter than stock chain. To exceed 8", we can add a shock spring which I have done to allow me to legally use extension cables because a lot of our creeks are deep sugar sand or just plain rotten dirt that you can push a 24" stake in with one finger. Put a stake in those conditions, even on flat ground, a coons can wallow the hole out enough to get the stake out. Add a sloped bank to that mix and it just gets easier for them to pull the stake. Use a regular swivel with a 3/8" rebar along with some elevation, pumping the stake is certainly possible.
There is no one size fits all circumstances for staking even for a raccoon.
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Re: Securing DPs
[Re: QuietButDeadly]
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02/01/23 09:00 PM
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ADC,in general I agree with you about coons not jumping a lot but there are always exceptions and extenuating circumstances. In NC, we have a max chain length to a solid anchor and it is only 8", and that is shorter than stock chain. To exceed 8", we can add a shock spring which I have done to allow me to legally use extension cables because a lot of our creeks are deep sugar sand or just plain rotten dirt that you can push a 24" stake in with one finger. Put a stake in those conditions, even on flat ground, a coons can wallow the hole out enough to get the stake out. Add a sloped bank to that mix and it just gets easier for them to pull the stake. Use a regular swivel with a 3/8" rebar along with some elevation, pumping the stake is certainly possible.
There is no one size fits all circumstances for staking even for a raccoon. First, that is an ignorant law. lol Secondly, I said they could get them out if they get above them, so we agree. I don't think they are tall enough even with only 8" of chain to jack the stakes on flat ground.
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Re: Securing DPs
[Re: HoosierTrapper07]
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02/02/23 08:47 PM
02/02/23 08:47 PM
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Lance Squires
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I use the berkshire stakes with 15" of cable. I drill a hole on the v-end and add some more cable with a loop so I can easily pull the stake with just a t-bar when it comes time to pull. Makes pulling very easy. This is for dryland trapping and not in the water. Works great in my area.
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