Re: Securing DPs
[Re: HoosierTrapper07]
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01/30/23 01:59 PM
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18" and 24" rebar for the most part. Stake clear of entanglement and what you catch should be waiting for you. There are times when stakes just will not hold on sandy bottoms or rotten creek banks so I use extension cables to something solid but they create a new set of problems. Either entanglement or leverage where the spring gets against something solid and allows the critter to apply enough leverage to self release. Crisscross double stake may be a better solution but I only have single stake terminal ends on my DPs.
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Re: Securing DPs
[Re: HoosierTrapper07]
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01/31/23 01:49 AM
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I love running t bars, I especially liked the smooth rod for them. It worked great for me and was easy enough to pull for me but the coons could never get it out. To this day, I still haven't had a coon get loose with a t bar stake. This year though, I'm going to run more earth anchors since I have so many and I need to thin down on some random ones I have. The stakes are about 18-24" and a 6" or so T on top and if I couldn't get it out, I would use the shovel end of my hammer to turn it a few times, and then I could usually get it out. I was running them in the frozen ground earlier this winter and only had to stack up some 2x8s to get some leverage before I got them out, but I did get them all.
Last edited by TheYouthTrapper; 01/31/23 01:51 AM.
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Re: Securing DPs
[Re: HoosierTrapper07]
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01/31/23 03:00 PM
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20" rebar 1/2" diameter. Nut or washer tops. Stake where they can't reach nothing such as near deer feeders and trails on firm ground.
4' to 6' cable extensions. 3/32" 7x7. Crimped loop on both ends. 1/8" quick link to attach to trap chain end swivel. Half hitch to trees along stream edges where my stakes won't hold.
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Re: Securing DPs
[Re: ~ADC~]
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02/01/23 05:29 AM
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24" 3/8" nut top stakes work great in our soil. Easy to move regularly, which is important with DPs IMO. Move them ever 3-4 days to new untapped locations. I use these along with T's this year is the first time I have ever had a coon jack out a stake this long 3 of them to be exact and can't figure out what happened and not theft but each one came after a real heavy rain and I don't check till after noon since I work nights one I could see but not 3 things happen I guess... Jon
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Re: Securing DPs
[Re: jalstat]
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02/01/23 06:16 AM
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24" 3/8" nut top stakes work great in our soil. Easy to move regularly, which is important with DPs IMO. Move them ever 3-4 days to new untapped locations. I use these along with T's this year is the first time I have ever had a coon jack out a stake this long 3 of them to be exact and can't figure out what happened and not theft but each one came after a real heavy rain and I don't check till after noon since I work nights one I could see but not 3 things happen I guess... Jon Soft ground and if the animal can get above the stake, this can happen.
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Re: Securing DPs
[Re: jalstat]
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02/01/23 08:20 AM
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24" 3/8" nut top stakes work great in our soil. Easy to move regularly, which is important with DPs IMO. Move them ever 3-4 days to new untapped locations. I use these along with T's this year is the first time I have ever had a coon jack out a stake this long 3 of them to be exact and can't figure out what happened and not theft but each one came after a real heavy rain and I don't check till after noon since I work nights one I could see but not 3 things happen I guess... Jon jalsat, were the ones that got pulled the nut on top or T on top? And what do you use for the rod to go through on the end of your chain?
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Re: Securing DPs
[Re: HoosierTrapper07]
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02/01/23 09:02 AM
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If you are using a regular swivel like this with the single J hook, I am surprised you have not had more problems. This is a classic pump the stake scenario due to the small amout of clearance around the stake, I use the following with a 3/8" rebar stake. The hole is large enough that it does not bind up on the rod as easily as the regular swivel shown above so pumping the stake is not an issue.
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Re: Securing DPs
[Re: HoosierTrapper07]
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02/01/23 03:22 PM
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ADC,in general I agree with you about coons not jumping a lot but there are always exceptions and extenuating circumstances. In NC, we have a max chain length to a solid anchor and it is only 8", and that is shorter than stock chain. To exceed 8", we can add a shock spring which I have done to allow me to legally use extension cables because a lot of our creeks are deep sugar sand or just plain rotten dirt that you can push a 24" stake in with one finger. Put a stake in those conditions, even on flat ground, a coons can wallow the hole out enough to get the stake out. Add a sloped bank to that mix and it just gets easier for them to pull the stake. Use a regular swivel with a 3/8" rebar along with some elevation, pumping the stake is certainly possible.
There is no one size fits all circumstances for staking even for a raccoon.
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Re: Securing DPs
[Re: QuietButDeadly]
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02/01/23 08:00 PM
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ADC,in general I agree with you about coons not jumping a lot but there are always exceptions and extenuating circumstances. In NC, we have a max chain length to a solid anchor and it is only 8", and that is shorter than stock chain. To exceed 8", we can add a shock spring which I have done to allow me to legally use extension cables because a lot of our creeks are deep sugar sand or just plain rotten dirt that you can push a 24" stake in with one finger. Put a stake in those conditions, even on flat ground, a coons can wallow the hole out enough to get the stake out. Add a sloped bank to that mix and it just gets easier for them to pull the stake. Use a regular swivel with a 3/8" rebar along with some elevation, pumping the stake is certainly possible.
There is no one size fits all circumstances for staking even for a raccoon. First, that is an ignorant law. lol Secondly, I said they could get them out if they get above them, so we agree. I don't think they are tall enough even with only 8" of chain to jack the stakes on flat ground.
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Re: Securing DPs
[Re: HoosierTrapper07]
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02/02/23 07:47 PM
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Lance Squires
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I use the berkshire stakes with 15" of cable. I drill a hole on the v-end and add some more cable with a loop so I can easily pull the stake with just a t-bar when it comes time to pull. Makes pulling very easy. This is for dryland trapping and not in the water. Works great in my area.
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