Re: Vietnam how many would serve today?
[Re: danvee]
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i was drafted in 68 came home in 69 did not know what was goin on but found out quick when (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) hit you gotta stay together and have each others back,if you go back i will be there with ya. i agree things should have been differnt.
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Re: Vietnam how many would serve today?
[Re: warrior]
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03/01/23 01:18 PM
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I'm also a veteran myself
As for those cowards that fled I'm still of the opinion that they should've been shot.
there a lot of folks that with a lot of mouth and little brain that want to make up their own rules. Including peacetime veterans.
Man who mistake shillelagh for fairy wand; see pixie dust, also.
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Re: Vietnam how many would serve today?
[Re: danvee]
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Roy Greenfield
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Maddog47 said it like it was. I spent 70 & 71 in the northern 1/4 of VN. The Hmong were some fierce fighters. They fought with a passion, and we spent plenty of time in the field with them. They were ignored and ostracized by the USA. Would I go back? Only to cover my buddies back or walk Maddog47s slack! Roy Greenfield CURR-A-HEE 3/506 ,101st ABN
Vietnam 1970 & 1971, Delta 3/506 101st ABN 11B, Light Weapons Infantry
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Re: Vietnam how many would serve today?
[Re: T-Rex]
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I'm also a veteran myself
As for those cowards that fled I'm still of the opinion that they should've been shot.
there a lot of folks that with a lot of mouth and little brain that want to make up their own rules. Including peacetime veterans. You calling me out? Might as well call me a REMF. You know what you know just what you can go do to yourself. I stand by my statement. Cowards run when called upon. Had they any guts they could've stood and fought. Whether that be in the courts, as an objector conscientious or otherwise but no they cut and run when things got even slightly uncomfortable. And I have no use for a coward of any type.
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Re: Vietnam how many would serve today?
[Re: danvee]
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danny clifton
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Mohammed Ali just said no. That took courage IMO. I think those that refused and went to Canada had a lot of different reasons for refusing. Jane Fonda is one I call a traitor. When I was young I thought the men who went to Canada were too. After the way the government just quit that war, just quit in the middle east, gave the enemy billions in military equipment, would not let the soldiers just take care of business, let the folks that were our "enemy" have what we supposedly were there to stop, I am against forcing people into the military.
If its not worth declaring war over, not worth destroying the country posing a threat, I say we ought not get involved. Its about wealthy people getting wealthier . Not U.S. sovereignty.
I still say Saudi Arabia is our enemy. The money for 911 came from the Saud royal family. Bush Jr is another traitor.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Vietnam how many would serve today?
[Re: warrior]
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03/01/23 02:30 PM
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You calling me out? Might as well call me a REMF.
You know what you know just what you can go do to yourself.
I stand by my statement. Cowards run when called upon. Had they any guts they could've stood and fought. Whether that be in the courts, as an objector conscientious or otherwise but no they cut and run when things got even slightly uncomfortable.
And I have no use for a coward of any type.
Wow. Somebody seems to have a real complex #1 Rear Eschelon does not exist in peacetime. Even if it did it is honorable duty, not worthy of profanity. #2 Yeah I know what I can do to myself. I do it all the time. Thanks for your support. #3 Shooting American citizens that have not been convicted of anything, let alone a crime without the death penalty, is a bit UnAmerican. and absolutely criminal.
Man who mistake shillelagh for fairy wand; see pixie dust, also.
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Re: Vietnam how many would serve today?
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I wouldn't touch this thread with a 10 foot pole, HOWEVER, I will say 2 things: If my country needed me, I would be there. #2: The men that DID go and serve (anytime, anywhere) will always get a tip of my hat and have a seat at my table. X2!!!!!
Stand by your principles, Stand by your guns, and victory complete and permanent is sure at last. Abraham Lincoln
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Re: Vietnam how many would serve today?
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03/01/23 04:02 PM
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Goes double for me Roy. You are my hero. Nothing but respect for you and all you did while wearing the uniform and what you have done for trapping.
Peace is that brief glorious moment when everybody stands around reloading Thomas Jefferson
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Re: Vietnam how many would serve today?
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03/01/23 05:12 PM
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The soldiers that fought that war did so with one hand tied behind their backs. I blame Johnson and Nixon for losing that war. A war under Biden would be similar. The war in Iraq was fought to win and we did in short order.
If someone tears down the American flag and puts another flag in its place, that person should get a free, mandatory one way trip to that country.
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Re: Vietnam how many would serve today?
[Re: warrior]
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Oh frig. I assumed you understood due process.
Shot after a proper trial of course. Again if the cowards had any balls they would've had their day in court.
You're taking this kind of personal for some reason. Draft Dodging is a bit different from desertion. I ain,'t no lawyer but, the penalty is a bit different from violating an oath and refusing to take it. At some point in the distant past I was forced into a formation and some guy in a green suit said. "None of you need to be here. You can do two years in prison if you would rather." I don't remember him mentioning being shot. I have to admit I like green better than stripes.
Man who mistake shillelagh for fairy wand; see pixie dust, also.
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Re: Vietnam how many would serve today?
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danny clifton
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I think Biden's crack head baby boy needs to get into the fight first
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Vietnam how many would serve today?
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I can live with whatever punishment is handed down but I stand by my opinion. The punishment handed down was amnesty.
Man who mistake shillelagh for fairy wand; see pixie dust, also.
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Re: Vietnam how many would serve today?
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03/01/23 07:14 PM
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randall brannon
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I have been in Iraq. NOW under President Hair Sniffer and General Smilley??? We would be invading in Nylons Lipstick and High Heels!!!
God please keep they 19 fallen UBB miners out of trouble up there.
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