Re: Native American stone tools
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03/04/23 07:39 AM
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danny clifton
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I think a lot of those axes primary purpose was as a weapon. The effort to cut down even a tree as big as your leg would have been enormous. It was done but not often. In a fire the wood was just stuck in intact. When the end burnt off they would stick in some more. Bones could be broke open with a hand held rock. A good piece of stone hafted to a nice piece of wood would have been a terrifyingly effective weapon.
I dont think ice holes were made when the ice got thick. I think they were just kept open. Covered with boughs, when the ice got thick enough. Winter would often be a starving time. Wasting energy to cut a big hole in thick ice is not a good way to last till spring.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Native American stone tools
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03/04/23 09:24 AM
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danny clifton
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MNCedar, I have heard that before. Take a modern single jack hammer into the woods. Pick up a piece of wood that would be a good club. Use the single jack to bust off limbs at the trunk of downed timber and the club to whack off whats left of a limb l after you grab the end and just bust it. use the hammer the same way. I could be wrong but I have a hard time believing the time and effort to make an axe head was for gathering firewood.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Native American stone tools
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03/04/23 10:12 AM
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Re: Native American stone tools
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03/04/23 07:22 PM
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I think a lot of those axes primary purpose was as a weapon. The effort to cut down even a tree as big as your leg would have been enormous. It was done but not often. In a fire the wood was just stuck in intact. When the end burnt off they would stick in some more. Bones could be broke open with a hand held rock. A good piece of stone hafted to a nice piece of wood would have been a terrifyingly effective weapon.
I dont think ice holes were made when the ice got thick. I think they were just kept open. Covered with boughs, when the ice got thick enough. Winter would often be a starving time. Wasting energy to cut a big hole in thick ice is not a good way to last till spring. Danny They were used to crush bones (marrow) and qauter game also clear trees for garden and fire wood they would burn the base and chop at the base of trees to fell them, the main reason camps were vacated was they would run out of firewood.
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Re: Native American stone tools
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03/04/23 09:36 PM
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Well Nate I did not get my theory from a book but rather trying out stuff outdoors. Without toilets I believe they moved because human waste , discarded animal parts, tougher hunting, all edible plants nearby gathered up, and yes, easily accessible firewood, made it necessary. I wasn't there so again I could easy be wrong.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Native American stone tools
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03/04/23 10:42 PM
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Where those scales are feet deep were they there long term or was it an annual thing when the fishing was good ?
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Native American stone tools
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03/05/23 12:04 AM
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Well Nate I did not get my theory from a book but rather trying out stuff outdoors. Without toilets I believe they moved because human waste , discarded animal parts, tougher hunting, all edible plants nearby gathered up, and yes, easily accessible firewood, made it necessary. I wasn't there so again I could easy be wrong. Who no's not I, but I do no a few days camping without a axe or saw I'm looking a lot harder for fire wood than I want to, I don't remember looking for a place to use the bathroom.
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