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Re: Martin fur [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #7818009
03/11/23 01:09 AM
03/11/23 01:09 AM
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I have a mixed bag of colors here, and that seemed kind of normal for all the regions of Alaska that I've trapped.
SE marten have always done just fine for me, throughout the decades, at all the various auctions that I have sold through. Some cash buyers try to low-ball SE fur sometimes, but I wouldn't recommend falling for it. The last boom year of 2013, I think there were around 30 in the true top lot at the auction, and I know 4 of them came from within 30 miles of my house. That was the highest prices ever achieved for marten at both FHA and NAFA, that season, as far as I know........

Re: Martin fur [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #7818016
03/11/23 01:30 AM
03/11/23 01:30 AM
Joined: Mar 2011
Montana ,Rocky Mtns.
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Montana ,Rocky Mtns.
Glad you included your input , T4ever….your marten are most colourful and luxurious. Everyone loves my hat , of many colours , all trapped by you.

Re: Martin fur [Re: Dirt] #7818344
03/11/23 02:25 PM
03/11/23 02:25 PM
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Co.-Wy. part time AK.
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Originally Posted by Dirt
NAFA used to give a Top Lot for every section and size for a few years. Just Sayin!

Right on this, they used to give top lot awards for "coat coon" when they were popular.

Re: Martin fur [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #7818506
03/11/23 05:41 PM
03/11/23 05:41 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
West Virginia,age 49
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West Virginia,age 49
Last year Jerry got 35.00 nose count on the ones qithout he feet. He had 20 with the feet.. his overall average was 40.

This year he's already been offered 40.00.nose count on the ones without feet.

They were sold to western fur buyer who buys alot of marten
.he buys at state auctions out west all.the time


IF IDIOTS GREW ON TREES THIS PLACE WOULD BE AN ORCHARD !

Re: Martin fur [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #7818528
03/11/23 06:43 PM
03/11/23 06:43 PM
Joined: Dec 2010
Armpit, ak
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"Hes actually got an order for 200 marten at 65.00 each from a guy in colorado right now."

What happen to this guy? I'd sell to him.


Who is John Galt?
Re: Martin fur [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #7818558
03/11/23 07:32 PM
03/11/23 07:32 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
West Virginia,age 49
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Dirt..i know you dont.like me..but it is what it is..as so often happens..money talks and bs walks.. the guy that said he wanted the 200 marten for 65.00 decided he was just running his.mouth when Jerry told him he'd have em.for him.

He cuts another guy in from time to time who traps near Dubois.
Between the 2 of them they had his 200 and he bailed.

If you've sold any amount.of fur you know tha happens sometimes.

When we sell these I'll post the receipt minus the buyers name since there seems to be a question about the validity of our market.


IF IDIOTS GREW ON TREES THIS PLACE WOULD BE AN ORCHARD !

Re: Martin fur [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #7818563
03/11/23 07:44 PM
03/11/23 07:44 PM
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New Hampshire
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Still got a nice colorful marten pelt saved for me ...?


It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Re: Martin fur [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #7818998
03/12/23 01:04 PM
03/12/23 01:04 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
West Virginia,age 49
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Nessie..yep


IF IDIOTS GREW ON TREES THIS PLACE WOULD BE AN ORCHARD !

Re: Martin fur [Re: cathryn] #7819018
03/12/23 01:30 PM
03/12/23 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by cathryn
Nessie..yep


Awesome..just shoot me a PM when evah it's ready...no rush


It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Re: Martin fur [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #7819057
03/12/23 02:07 PM
03/12/23 02:07 PM
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Cathryn, You're over your PM limit and receive anymore.

Re: Martin fur [Re: wy.wolfer] #7819555
03/13/23 07:26 AM
03/13/23 07:26 AM
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West Virginia,age 49
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Originally Posted by wy.wolfer
Cathryn, You're over your PM limit and receive anymore.

I fixed it.a. waiting for your pm


IF IDIOTS GREW ON TREES THIS PLACE WOULD BE AN ORCHARD !

Re: Martin fur [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #7819702
03/13/23 12:26 PM
03/13/23 12:26 PM
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Moved to Fbks, Ak.
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Jerry's marten buyer is only good for a certain number of furs? I'm confused. If a guy can make money on 1 or 2 hundred furs, Marten in this case, wouldn't he make more money with 1000?
I've only sold Marten in Alaska or at big auctions.

Re: Martin fur [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #7819725
03/13/23 01:06 PM
03/13/23 01:06 PM
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Alaska and Washington State
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^^^^^
I'm going to butt in here just a bit; I might have an explanation.

There are becoming more more and more fur buyers for the craft market and other such markets that don't absorb the quantities that traditionally have been used by the bigger markets. These smaller buyers could go to Canada or across the Atlantic to the big auctions and buy skins for what appears to be a less expensive price. But by the time they pay the "Buyers Premium", shipping, customs brokerage fees, USWFS import permits, their airfare and lodging, those skins end up costing a whole lot more than what we see posted as the auction price. Therefore, they can often pay a lot more for those skins when buying directly from the trapper, and they are still saving money.

We see this particularly with big otters in the west.


"My life is better than your vacation"
Re: Martin fur [Re: Dirt] #7820800
03/14/23 11:02 PM
03/14/23 11:02 PM
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Armpit, ak
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Originally Posted by Dirt
There must be few 2 to 3X dark heavy marten in North America. Every time I catch one it will be in lot 1 or 2. The size is common here. The color, not so much.


30002 103030207 3X-2XSELECT & I XDK-DK BRN 1. Guess I wasn't lying.


Who is John Galt?
Re: Martin fur [Re: waggler] #7820890
03/15/23 06:31 AM
03/15/23 06:31 AM
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West Virginia,age 49
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Originally Posted by waggler
^^^^^
I'm going to butt in here just a bit; I might have an explanation.

There are becoming more more and more fur buyers for the craft market and other such markets that don't absorb the quantities that traditionally have been used by the bigger markets. These smaller buyers could go to Canada or across the Atlantic to the big auctions and buy skins for what appears to be a less expensive price. But by the time they pay the "Buyers Premium", shipping, customs brokerage fees, USWFS import permits, their airfare and lodging, those skins end up costing a whole lot more than what we see posted as the auction price. Therefore, they can often pay a lot more for those skins when buying directly from the trapper, and they are still saving money.

We see this particularly with big otters in the west.


Sorry I've been busy cleaning and selling ramps
Exactly..and he could all he can catch.
Also..people.are trying to fill contracts and if you have enough of them they'll pay a premium to get their order filled.
The guy in colorado that said he wanted 200 at 65 was full of crap because when we told them we had them available..with Jerry friends.marten in Dubois..he said his market fell through
Jerry sells usually 25 or 30 with the feet to a guy in south Dakota who owns a tourist shop..

The rest he skins without the feet and sells to the a regular fur buyer who has already guaranteed him 40.00 straight..it may be more when he goes to sell.

Jerry catches more that some state sales offer for auction


IF IDIOTS GREW ON TREES THIS PLACE WOULD BE AN ORCHARD !

Re: Martin fur [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #7821189
03/15/23 01:50 PM
03/15/23 01:50 PM
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^^^^^^
Those do look to be a bit stubby. Are you sure you aren't stretching them too wide?


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Re: Martin fur [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #7821200
03/15/23 02:02 PM
03/15/23 02:02 PM
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james bay frontierOnt.
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The standard (perfect sized) board for marten is the ranch mink board.One size for male and one size for female.Unless you want the grader guessing(and when they have to guess it wont benefit the producer) all marten going to auction should be formed on the ranch mink boards.
Pointy noses get a downsize too so make sure they are nice and rounded.
Mark the size lines on your boards,pin the skirt straight across from the base of the tail,and pin between the size lines to allow for shrinkage.
Pin the hind legs where they hang.pulling them thins the fur on the flank where the grader runs his thumb and forefinger along the pelt to determine "weight" when grading.

Last edited by Boco; 03/15/23 02:04 PM.

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Re: Martin fur [Re: martentrapper] #7821314
03/15/23 05:11 PM
03/15/23 05:11 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
West Virginia,age 49
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Originally Posted by martentrapper
Jerry's marten buyer is only good for a certain number of furs? I'm confused. If a guy can make money on 1 or 2 hundred furs, Marten in this case, wouldn't he make more money with 1000?
I've only sold Marten in Alaska or at big auctions.


(This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) take all the marten he can get far as i know.
If you have any text me. I can talk to the guy and probably get you in contact with him if you have very many. Yours will be worth more than ours.


IF IDIOTS GREW ON TREES THIS PLACE WOULD BE AN ORCHARD !

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