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Re: Native American stone tools [Re: Pawnee] #8253060
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Originally Posted by Pawnee
Has anyone found a Clovis point?

Yes...one double fluted.

Found it in 2 pieces, unfortunately, but the break is clean. Can put it together and not see the break.

I have several late Paleo projectiles, but only that one true Clovis (documented by a University of Georgia archeologist) and listed in their records as a Clovis find from this area.


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Re: Native American stone tools [Re: goldnut] #8253097
11/03/24 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by goldnut
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Found this a few years ago while trapping a plowed field. Not sure what it is. Maybe just natural occuring? Any ideas?

it is called a kettle rock
fast flowing rivers go over falls and create a eddy and this hard igneous rocks turn in softer rock formation, when you find one of these formations they are kettle shape and sometimes 6 feet deep with the smooth rounded rocks in the bottom and sand all around

Re: Native American stone tools [Re: Swamp Wolf] #8253107
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Swamp that’s pretty cool. Thanks


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Re: Native American stone tools [Re: Northof50] #8253114
11/03/24 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Northof50
Originally Posted by goldnut
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Found this a few years ago while trapping a plowed field. Not sure what it is. Maybe just natural occuring? Any ideas?

it is called a kettle rock
fast flowing rivers go over falls and create a eddy and this hard igneous rocks turn in softer rock formation, when you find one of these formations they are kettle shape and sometimes 6 feet deep with the smooth rounded rocks in the bottom and sand all around

Interesting info. The closest river to me is miles away. Is this an indication that there would have been a river here thousands of years ago? Or maybe brought here frome glacier movement?



Re: Native American stone tools [Re: DRF] #8253126
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[Linked Image]
Here is another from a friend of mine. Not sure where he found it. Very curious as to what this might be.



Re: Native American stone tools [Re: DRF] #8253127
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This is another one that he found.



Re: Native American stone tools [Re: goldnut] #8253130
11/03/24 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by goldnut
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I bought some lance points at a flea market today and met Stinky Pete.

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Does anyone else have anything new to show?

Keith

Where was this flea market please?


It was at the Champaign County, Ohio Fairgrounds. It's run by kids in 4H on the first weekend of the month, except in August because of the County Fair.

There's more artifacts at Caesers Creek Flea Market, the Springfield Antique Mall and Treasure Aisles Flea Market.

Keith

Re: Native American stone tools [Re: goldnut] #8253147
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Goldnut ,the gov trapper friend of mine found one like that and he says it is used to straighten and polish arrows ,his was a very black stone .


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Re: Native American stone tools [Re: DRF] #8253282
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Goldnut glaciers covered at least half or more of western pa at one time or another.

Re: Native American stone tools [Re: DRF] #8253370
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Clovis gets mentioned maybe because more people have heard the name. But there were no doubt people here for thousands of years before Clovis technology appeared. At this point seems likely people were here five thousand years prior.

Re: Native American stone tools [Re: Swamp Wolf] #8253383
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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
Originally Posted by Pawnee
Has anyone found a Clovis point?

Yes...one double fluted.

Found it in 2 pieces, unfortunately, but the break is clean. Can put it together and not see the break.

I have several late Paleo projectiles, but only that one true Clovis (documented by a University of Georgia archeologist) and listed in their records as a Clovis find from this area.


Found 3/4 of a Clovis point in NE Iowa - the point was broken off but the fluting was well preserved. Contacted the State of Iowa Archaeology Dept as well as the The Hawkeye State Archaeological Society and both said that the finding of such an early point is rare in Iowa due to the date of the most recent glacier occurrence. I placed it in the local museum with the other artifacts I have there.

Re: Native American stone tools [Re: DRF] #8253387
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goldnut ;One has to remember things happened well before the glacial period, inland seas etc
so river etc can get formed then covered The Cretaceous period was 80 million years ago with an inland sea splitting and that sea flowed out etc

Re: Native American stone tools [Re: goldnut] #8253438
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Originally Posted by goldnut
[Linked Image]
Here is another from a friend of mine. Not sure where he found it. Very curious as to what this might be.


its a shotgun shell


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Re: Native American stone tools [Re: 30-06 Trapper] #8253590
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Originally Posted by 30-06 Trapper
Originally Posted by goldnut
[Linked Image]
Here is another from a friend of mine. Not sure where he found it. Very curious as to what this might be.


its a shotgun shell

No-no-no
it is a first nations tool
so it is not a pig castrator but a bison castrator
The federal thingy is a 10 gu. shotgun shell 3 inch

Re: Native American stone tools [Re: 30-06 Trapper] #8253610
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Originally Posted by 30-06 Trapper
Originally Posted by goldnut
[Linked Image]
Here is another from a friend of mine. Not sure where he found it. Very curious as to what this might be.


its a shotgun shell

laugh



Re: Native American stone tools [Re: Northof50] #8253611
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Originally Posted by Northof50
goldnut ;One has to remember things happened well before the glacial period, inland seas etc
so river etc can get formed then covered The Cretaceous period was 80 million years ago with an inland sea splitting and that sea flowed out etc

Cool info. Thanks



Re: Native American stone tools [Re: goldnut] #8253641
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Originally Posted by goldnut
[Linked Image]
Here is another from a friend of mine. Not sure where he found it. Very curious as to what this might be.

It’s an unfinished banner stone…
A winged banner stone ,,,
Bannerstones were made in different types bottle, tube, winged
They are believed to have been weights for the atlatl thrower,,, though it is still debated by some archaeologists.
I’ve never found a winged banner,, but I have found 2 tube banners [Linked Image]

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Re: Native American stone tools [Re: DRF] #8253704
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My knowledge on artifacts is on the low side of the scale. Did watch what others were calling a Hardin/ Etley point about 3 and a half inches long bring 1700 dollars at a public auction here in Central MO Friday night. I would have been very leery of it as it looked way too perfect to me. I hope none of you guys are sitting on a rose quartz banner stone because your financial state would be something to envy. Also saw a guy pay a hundred bucks for a bird point out of the same frame.

Re: Native American stone tools [Re: DRF] #8253822
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They can be found in pretty decent shape but I find more broken ones than intact ones.

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