Re: Silicone Valley Bank Meltdown
[Re: Steven 49er]
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03/11/23 03:39 PM
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Agreed. And the more often it happens the more it will be expected to happen That is a trait of fiat currency. Predictable. Yellen said there is no systematic risk? Someone remember what Bernanke said? Let's hope Powell sticks to his guns. He won't. Indeed I see that as a very real possibility. I think Powell was on the verge of a 50 bp increase on March 22. I suspect this might cause him to go wobbly and back off and go with 25 bp. I hope I am wrong
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Re: Silicone Valley Bank Meltdown
[Re: Chancey]
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03/11/23 04:08 PM
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Holding firm will destroy the housing market, real estate markets, job market and the governments will have to make draconian cuts. Entitlement programs will be in deep do do. Painful at best it will be. I see it as a good thing. I'm in the minority.
I don't think he has any choice but to pivot.
"Gold is money, everything else is just credit" JP Morgan
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Re: Silicone Valley Bank Meltdown
[Re: Chancey]
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03/11/23 04:25 PM
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I actually think we need to see hyperinflation and destroy the currency. Then maybe the world can return to sound money principles.
If we don't the cycle will repeat, every time it repeats it gets exponentially worse. Predictable cycle of a debt backed currency.
It's no coincidence central banks are piling into gold.
"Gold is money, everything else is just credit" JP Morgan
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Re: Silicone Valley Bank Meltdown
[Re: Chancey]
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03/11/23 04:35 PM
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I think you are right concerning this bank failure. No one knows what the event will be, it's possible this last round of monetary easing has put us over the top.
If not that one, can any one imagine how big the next stimulus plan and quantitative easing will be.
"Gold is money, everything else is just credit" JP Morgan
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Re: Silicone Valley Bank Meltdown
[Re: Steven 49er]
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03/11/23 04:45 PM
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Holding firm will destroy the housing market, real estate markets, job market and the governments will have to make draconian cuts. Entitlement programs will be in deep do do. Painful at best it will be. I see it as a good thing. I'm in the minority.
I don't think he has any choice but to pivot.
Are you actually destroying the housing market, by not juicing it anymore? Or are you just restoring a free market housing market, where prices don't go up faster than overall inflation and the average square footage comes back down to the old practical sized house.?
Who is John Galt?
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Re: Silicone Valley Bank Meltdown
[Re: charles]
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03/11/23 04:56 PM
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The bank speculated by lending to tech startup companies. Not a diversified investment strategy. Not standard banking procedure. This particular bank was founded in 1983 by two guys in a poker game. I suspect that a culture of risk-taking was prevalent throughout. That's ok by itself but the real culprit here was ignoring interest rate risk. If the yield curve had not inverted, they would have likely been OK.....for a while longer
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Re: Silicone Valley Bank Meltdown
[Re: Chancey]
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03/11/23 05:11 PM
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All you saps hoarding money in the bank better go get it now and spend it before you get frozen out,or it becomes worthless.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: Silicone Valley Bank Meltdown
[Re: spjones]
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03/11/23 05:16 PM
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So how’s everyone playing this??
I don’t do options, so uvxy,,,
Paid well on Friday. Next week will be interesting
I won't touch SVB or anything associated with it but I do think one or two other companies, or maybe ETF's, may have been unfairly punished in the reaction to SVB. Those companies may be worth a look. And I think this is exactly the circumstance where an option position would be warranted over long stock
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Re: Silicone Valley Bank Meltdown
[Re: Chancey]
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03/11/23 06:32 PM
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Never should have gone off the gold standard.
Get the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US.
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Re: Silicone Valley Bank Meltdown
[Re: Chancey]
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03/11/23 08:17 PM
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Reportedly Elon Musk said he was "open to the idea" of buying SVB.
Just give me one thing, that I can hold on to. To believe in this livin' is just a hard way to go.
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Re: Silicone Valley Bank Meltdown
[Re: Chancey]
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03/11/23 08:28 PM
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The whole financial system is a rigged game of musical chairs...
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Re: Silicone Valley Bank Meltdown
[Re: Chancey]
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03/11/23 08:58 PM
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After Friday's stunning collapse of Silicon Valley Bank, questions swirled around the exposure of one of crypto's top firms, Circle, the issuer of the second-largest stablecoin, USDC.
In its March attestation, Circle had revealed that part of its $9.88 in cash reserves was held at SVB, although it did not disclose the total amount. Following the collapse of SVB, withdrawals from USDC mounted, with the crypto intelligence platform Nansen showing over $1 billion in redemptions from the stablecoin since SVB's shutdown. USDC has a market cap just north of $40 billion.
As USDC lost its $1 peg across different crypto exchanges amid withdrawals, Circle sought to instill confidence, with the company tweeting at 6:50 pm ET that it would continue to operate normally, sharing that SVB was one of the six banking partners it uses for the 25% of its reserves that it keeps in cash, although still not disclosing the amount held at SVB.
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