Kind of like nobody chooses to be lost on the freeway but yet they are the ones that took the on ramp.

Mental illness is the problem. Whether by choice of suddenly wanting attention and choosing to become gay/trans. it could also be caused by a chemical imbalance from a medical or pharmaceutical problem. It could also be caused by poor/lacking parental involvement/guidance.

Either way, the gun didn't do it. A deranged person of unstable mental acuity decided to kill 9 year old children and adults.

The real problem is mental health. To lift up and legitimize a confused mental health state as normal and not expect serious and severe reactions and complications is a detachment from reality.

Sadly, this can be directly blamed on the left. Legitimizing and not seeking or offering mental help for someone who is so confused as to want to wear the opposite sex clothing or become the opposite sex is tragic. Kids who say they are suddenly trans are seeking attention they are not getting from home, friends or parents. It is a mental state of loneliness and confusion so they find some path, any path, to get attention. Only one party is legitimizing this behavior and ignoring its horrible effects on our society.

All in the name of getting re-elected and then blaming the problem on an inanimate object that can only do evil in an evil person's hands of their creation. Pure evil.

You sound like Christopher Hitchens. Have you ever watched him debate Christians?

You make choices that lead to it.

He's out?

The lay minister that was killed was a good friend's father.

This isn't good.

I agree with ^. bowhunter27295 ^
The LARGE majority of this is now taught, condoned and instructed.
Virtually all young humans go through difficult, confusing times/episodes growing up. I know no one who didn't.
A wholesome 2 parent home and early lessons regarding responsibility and consequences are the best medicine.
Both of which are in dwindling supply, and are actually shunned today.
These lifestyles are taught,learned and promoted.
These are basically "Designer" mental states, not so much a mental anomaly at birth.
It may not be too late to heal the children's minds, but the promoters of this indoctrination need to go.

Yeah Mike the wife saw it just last night said it was real??? Apparently our favorite judge Ramona is letting him move to Eau Claire. Not allowed in the area.
I did not know Mr Hammes, but I had met Mr Roth on more than one occasion.
I was a first responder at the time could leave for the call because I was home alone with the kids. I listened to it all on scanner and my cousin was one of the first in the church.
Bad deal all way around.

Mac

There are a few gays at my firm. I went to school with a couple of gays. I don't think I know anyone who is trans but I have seen a few while at the store.

It's a weird lifestyle. I don't know what causes it and don't really care. The ones I actually know have jobs, pay taxes and contribute to society. I agree, it's weird regardless.

While I too am tired of their lifestyle being forced on me, some of y'all need to calm down.

You don't want people telling you how to live but are quick to tell others how you think they should do it.

That mindset cuts both ways--guns, hunting, trapping, etc. Plenty of people think you would have to be mentally ill to trap a cute coyote.

WOW!

Chris

This is not going to get any better folks there is a huge disconnect in many families today has been for a while now. Kids are not being taught even basic life coping skills not even in schools at times. Dinners with the family is a thing of the past few lesson opportunities to be had even. Empathy, remorse, kindness and community are now replaced with electronics in a child’s life. There is almost no human interaction today the main communication is done by phone even if you’re 3 feet apart.

Danny, that church is a Presbyterian Church of America congregation.

Look up their position of LGBT and other theological positions such as ordaining females.

Exactly opposite what you claim.



So, what is YOUR issue with God?

I don't know the difference in one church from another. Are you saying that this church and their teachings and beliefs allow this to happen to them???


Mac

I'm saying this girl was most likely not told the gospel truth while a student at that church.

Umm, this school only goes through the 6th grade. It was 28 years old. Kinda far removed from whatever it heard in this school. Besides, you got any evidence that it was "trans" in the 6th grade or just more atheistic tripe?

Warrior your analysis on what the perp was not taught is likely spot on given the false doctrine of the Presbyterian church.

So then not knowing such things your saying Presbyterians are not really true Christians?? Or just miss guided in their studies?

Years ago I politely ran some Mormons out of my in-laws yard. Told them the family was all Catholic and they didn't need to leave their literature. To which I was told by one young man. I too once had the wrong religion until I found my way. That's when I politely told them find your way off the property..

So that leaves same old question who's way is right or wrong..

Mac

"I am the Way, the Truth and the Life." - Jesus.

Millions have been killed over that exact question.

Well Mac I follow the teachings of the Bible. It teaches such things as marriage is between one man and one woman. The Presbyterian church doesn't hold to this biblical teaching just being one example of false teaching.