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Re: Grading of hatter/felt beavers [Re: beaverpeeler] #7840204
04/06/23 08:57 PM
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Re: Grading of hatter/felt beavers [Re: beaverpeeler] #7840215
04/06/23 09:08 PM
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I was referring to gd dmg grade beaver. One buyer bought all the strings at identical prices last June. Not sure if the same happened in this last sale.


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Re: Grading of hatter/felt beavers [Re: beaverpeeler] #7840219
04/06/23 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
I was referring to gd dmg grade beaver. One buyer bought all the strings at identical prices last June. Not sure if the same happened in this last sale.


Same price same size and grade Gd dmg.

March 2023 Catalog

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Re: Grading of hatter/felt beavers [Re: beaverpeeler] #7840232
04/06/23 09:29 PM
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Just means top bidder took the entire string.


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Re: Grading of hatter/felt beavers [Re: beaverpeeler] #7840234
04/06/23 09:32 PM
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Good thing FHA micrograded for no more money. Normal.


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Re: Grading of hatter/felt beavers [Re: Dirt] #7840245
04/06/23 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirt
Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
I was referring to gd dmg grade beaver. One buyer bought all the strings at identical prices last June. Not sure if the same happened in this last sale.


Same price same size and grade Gd dmg.

March 2023 Catalog


Thanks for posting that Dirt. First chance I had to peruse the sold catalog. I hope those kinds of numbers keep up for a few auctions.


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Re: Grading of hatter/felt beavers [Re: beaverpeeler] #7840445
04/07/23 06:39 AM
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Hatter's were normally bought by weight not per hide. Since all they are needing is the hair it's same as like buying cotton.


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Re: Grading of hatter/felt beavers [Re: beaverpeeler] #7840484
04/07/23 07:38 AM
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Wouldn’t a southern pelt be heavier that a northern but have thinner coat? Cuz of the thicker hide?


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Re: Grading of hatter/felt beavers [Re: beaverpeeler] #7840511
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Why is the leather thicker on southern beaver?

Re: Grading of hatter/felt beavers [Re: beaverpeeler] #7840586
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BP looks like they had LT beaver in section 1, but didn't have any grade REG DGD? Maybe if I was in the LT biness I would chop a couple of holes in each hide.


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Re: Grading of hatter/felt beavers [Re: Bigbrownie] #7840589
04/07/23 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Bigbrownie
Why is the leather thicker on southern beaver?


All southerners grew thicker leather just to put up with us carpetbaggers. Leastways that's what my Tennessee room-mate once told me.


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Re: Grading of hatter/felt beavers [Re: Dirt] #7840604
04/07/23 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Dirt
BP looks like they had LT beaver in section 1, but didn't have any grade REG DGD? Maybe if I was in the LT biness I would chop a couple of holes in each hide.

Yeah, that is pretty much my point in all this. When will the trade push FHA to lot beaver according to how much usable felt they have. Flat early goods just aren't a very good deal for them when intersorted with heavy nap northern goods.


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Re: Grading of hatter/felt beavers [Re: beaverpeeler] #7840669
04/07/23 11:57 AM
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There is no way that the buyers/end users dont know the difference in short vs heavy nap beaver fur.

There is something else going on with this market for them to not acknowledge (with $$) the difference in amount of available felt.

What are they doing with all that beaver leather after the fur is shaved off?


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Re: Grading of hatter/felt beavers [Re: beaverpeeler] #7840678
04/07/23 12:10 PM
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Swampy, what I believe is going on is desperation to get their tally of felt however they can get it. The fact that the felt market is the total beaver market right now (almost) is a relatively new thing. That is my point to the thread...when will they demand sorting to meet their criteria?

As far as the leather goes, my understanding is that when the pelt goes through their machinery the leather is actually cut into small unusable strips. They haven't really figured out any use for it.


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Re: Grading of hatter/felt beavers [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7840698
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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
There is no way that the buyers/end users dont know the difference in short vs heavy nap beaver fur.

There is something else going on with this market for them to not acknowledge (with $$) the difference in amount of available felt.

What are they doing with all that beaver weather after the fur is shaved off?

When markets are hot, grading goes out the window. Once demand settles, buyers will get pickier. Right now, they are buying anything that looks like a beaver.

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Re: Grading of hatter/felt beavers [Re: beaverpeeler] #7840712
04/07/23 01:06 PM
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^^^That's exactly how I see it as well.


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Re: Grading of hatter/felt beavers [Re: beaverpeeler] #7840787
04/07/23 03:13 PM
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Can felt for hats be made from other species' short fur?

Muskrat, mink....otter?


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Re: Grading of hatter/felt beavers [Re: beaverpeeler] #7840818
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
Originally Posted by Bigbrownie
Why is the leather thicker on southern beaver?


All southerners grew thicker leather just to put up with us carpetbaggers. Leastways that's what my Tennessee room-mate once told me.


LOL! Not sure, just read that in the giant fur bearer management book I got. Maybe cuz they get to fool around all year, not cooped up during the winter?


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Re: Grading of hatter/felt beavers [Re: beaverpeeler] #7840826
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Just got a call from a guy looking for 10,000 beaver no joke


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Re: Grading of hatter/felt beavers [Re: beaverpeeler] #7840832
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