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Re: Tank or Tankless
[Re: vermontster]
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04/11/23 08:05 PM
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midland, michigan
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I would never get a tankless water heater. They cost more, most repairs are expensive and their life expectancy is less. I use a 40 gal. electric and have a timer on it to turn it off during the times its not needed like night time and during the day when not home. I also keep the water heater temperature set at 150 degrees so the water doesn't contain bacteria. I have a thermal mixing valve that is set for 125 degrees. That ensures that I don't have water any hotter than 125 degrees delivered to my fixtures. My wife is a massage therapist and does a large load of laundry every day and we never runout of hot water. The tank water heater has double the life span of the tankless water heater and sometimes more. The electric tank water heater has only a pressure relief valve, 2- heating elements, thermostat all of these are usually available at any local hardware store. I flush the tank once a year to help remove any lime scale buildup. There's no way that I can see any savings with a tankless water heater that cost more to purchase with a shorter life span, higher repair bills that also you will have to wait for the repair parts. My electric tank water heater only requires a 30 amp circuit which uses a 10 gauge wire size. With addition of the timer and the thermal mixing valve the initial cost is still less. I have seen people replace their tankless water heaters three times before I would have to replace a tank water heater. Where's the savings in a tankless water heater? To flush my tank water heater I turn the power off, shut off the cold water supply valve and open the drain valve and empty the tank. Once empty then I open the cold water supply valve and leave the drain valve open for a couple minutes more. Then close the drain valve and fill the tank, then turn the power back on. In a half hour It's ready to use. If going away for a extended amount of time I turn the power off and turn back on when I return home. Curious where you are getting your information ? Everything ive ever read will tell you tanks have a life of 10-15 years while tankless typically 20-30 years. Serious question....
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Re: Tank or Tankless
[Re: Law Dog]
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04/11/23 09:05 PM
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Joined: Jan 2008
Alaska and Washington State
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Alaska and Washington State
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Try one out if you know someone I’m not impressed with my tankless heater what you save in preheating in a tank you waste waiting for a tankless to start warming up. My tankless is right next to my kitchen sink and it takes a crazy amount of time to put out hot water. Is it electric? I've only had experience with gas tankless heaters, and they heat water very fast in my experience.
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Re: Tank or Tankless
[Re: randall brannon]
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04/12/23 08:03 AM
04/12/23 08:03 AM
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Joined: Mar 2008
Ohio, Old fart to some.
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Ohio, Old fart to some.
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I have both. If the tank one ever goes bad I will replace it with a gas tank less.
My tankless now is electric. It has two 40 amp circuits .
If the power ever goes out my generator will run a well pump so with a gas tankless I'll have hot water.
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The voices in my head may not be real, but they have some good ideas!
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Re: Tank or Tankless
[Re: randall brannon]
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04/12/23 08:14 AM
04/12/23 08:14 AM
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adk foothills
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I have 2 40 gallon electric heaters.
You may think it's a waste but I haven't replaced either in 25 years.
The first o e heats the well water from 55 to about 95 degrees.
It works quickly doing that and really gets most of the calcium settled out.
Then that 95 degree water goes to the Seco d unit, getting heated from 95 to 130.
It is pretty much always full of HOT water.
The typical heater is only HALF full of hot water.
Electric costs are just slightly more with 2 units
I do not recognize the biden/harris administration as legal
18 speeds on 18 wheels
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Re: Tank or Tankless
[Re: midlander]
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04/12/23 08:27 AM
04/12/23 08:27 AM
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Joined: Dec 2014
west virginia usa
randall brannon
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west virginia usa
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I would never get a tankless water heater. They cost more, most repairs are expensive and their life expectancy is less. I use a 40 gal. electric and have a timer on it to turn it off during the times its not needed like night time and during the day when not home. I also keep the water heater temperature set at 150 degrees so the water doesn't contain bacteria. I have a thermal mixing valve that is set for 125 degrees. That ensures that I don't have water any hotter than 125 degrees delivered to my fixtures. My wife is a massage therapist and does a large load of laundry every day and we never runout of hot water. The tank water heater has double the life span of the tankless water heater and sometimes more. The electric tank water heater has only a pressure relief valve, 2- heating elements, thermostat all of these are usually available at any local hardware store. I flush the tank once a year to help remove any lime scale buildup. There's no way that I can see any savings with a tankless water heater that cost more to purchase with a shorter life span, higher repair bills that also you will have to wait for the repair parts. My electric tank water heater only requires a 30 amp circuit which uses a 10 gauge wire size. With addition of the timer and the thermal mixing valve the initial cost is still less. I have seen people replace their tankless water heaters three times before I would have to replace a tank water heater. Where's the savings in a tankless water heater? To flush my tank water heater I turn the power off, shut off the cold water supply valve and open the drain valve and empty the tank. Once empty then I open the cold water supply valve and leave the drain valve open for a couple minutes more. Then close the drain valve and fill the tank, then turn the power back on. In a half hour It's ready to use. If going away for a extended amount of time I turn the power off and turn back on when I return home. Curious where you are getting your information ? Everything ive ever read will tell you tanks have a life of 10-15 years while tankless typically 20-30 years. Serious question.... I built my first house back in the late 90's and the gas Hot water heater is still going strong.
God please keep they 19 fallen UBB miners out of trouble up there.
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Re: Tank or Tankless
[Re: randall brannon]
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04/12/23 09:13 AM
04/12/23 09:13 AM
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Central, SD
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Central, SD
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Not thrilled with my LP one but I’d replace it with another one just because it’s the easiest thing to do in a pinch. I thought if I bough a bigger one it would work better but it’s just slow with the hot water even just a few feet away it’s slow. Just don’t think I’m saving much running water for 2-3 minutes to take a hot shower. So now I turn it on and gather cloths or brush my teeth before stepping into to shower.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
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Re: Tank or Tankless
[Re: justjosh]
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04/12/23 10:33 AM
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Greene County,Virginia
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Have had a propane tankless for 14 years. Only problem with it was when dirt dobbers built a nest in the exhaust and it tripped a safety switch. Will get another when it dies. I have the same issue. It's frustrating if you aren't professional plumber. Which I am not a professional plumber.
wanna be goat farmer.
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Re: Tank or Tankless
[Re: randall brannon]
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04/12/23 10:36 AM
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Greene County,Virginia
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Greene County,Virginia
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I like the scrap value of the tankless water heaters. Not saying the ones with tanks don't have scrap value. I just know tankless is smaller and easier to take to the scrap yard.
wanna be goat farmer.
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Re: Tank or Tankless
[Re: run]
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04/12/23 11:20 AM
04/12/23 11:20 AM
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west virginia usa
randall brannon
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west virginia usa
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I like the scrap value of the tankless water heaters. Not saying the ones with tanks don't have scrap value. I just know tankless is smaller and easier to take to the scrap yard. HA HA HA. Now there is a man who can make a Positive out of anything.
God please keep they 19 fallen UBB miners out of trouble up there.
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Re: Tank or Tankless
[Re: midlander]
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04/12/23 02:36 PM
04/12/23 02:36 PM
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Joined: Feb 2014
On Georgian Bay, Ontario Canad...
Hutchy
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I would never get a tankless water heater. They cost more, most repairs are expensive and their life expectancy is less. I use a 40 gal. electric and have a timer on it to turn it off during the times its not needed like night time and during the day when not home. I also keep the water heater temperature set at 150 degrees so the water doesn't contain bacteria. I have a thermal mixing valve that is set for 125 degrees. That ensures that I don't have water any hotter than 125 degrees delivered to my fixtures. My wife is a massage therapist and does a large load of laundry every day and we never runout of hot water. The tank water heater has double the life span of the tankless water heater and sometimes more. The electric tank water heater has only a pressure relief valve, 2- heating elements, thermostat all of these are usually available at any local hardware store. I flush the tank once a year to help remove any lime scale buildup. There's no way that I can see any savings with a tankless water heater that cost more to purchase with a shorter life span, higher repair bills that also you will have to wait for the repair parts. My electric tank water heater only requires a 30 amp circuit which uses a 10 gauge wire size. With addition of the timer and the thermal mixing valve the initial cost is still less. I have seen people replace their tankless water heaters three times before I would have to replace a tank water heater. Where's the savings in a tankless water heater? To flush my tank water heater I turn the power off, shut off the cold water supply valve and open the drain valve and empty the tank. Once empty then I open the cold water supply valve and leave the drain valve open for a couple minutes more. Then close the drain valve and fill the tank, then turn the power back on. In a half hour It's ready to use. If going away for a extended amount of time I turn the power off and turn back on when I return home. Curious where you are getting your information ? Everything ive ever read will tell you tanks have a life of 10-15 years while tankless typically 20-30 years. Serious question.... Normally here the tanks are so old they stop making elements for them, and the tankless have screwed up long before 15 years.
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Re: Tank or Tankless
[Re: randall brannon]
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04/12/23 03:21 PM
04/12/23 03:21 PM
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Central, SD
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Central, SD
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I’ll give mine a shot in the morning it’s 75 here now and the wife was in the kitchen will see what a cool night does to the water our rural water comes in cold in the winter months.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
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Re: Tank or Tankless
[Re: randall brannon]
#7844350
04/12/23 06:08 PM
04/12/23 06:08 PM
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Central, SD
Law Dog
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Central, SD
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Tried mine after dinner it took a minute to get to wash your hands hot.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
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Re: Tank or Tankless
[Re: ebsurveyor]
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04/12/23 06:15 PM
04/12/23 06:15 PM
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Central, SD
Law Dog
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Central, SD
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Tried mine after dinner it took a minute to get to wash your hands hot. plastic or copper? White plastic
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
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Re: Tank or Tankless
[Re: randall brannon]
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04/13/23 08:42 AM
04/13/23 08:42 AM
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MN
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MN
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We have a home in the Country and free gas so that will always be a gas Water Heater but ....... Tank or tankless don't much matter, but tell me about this free gas gig you have going.
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