Re: Minnesota's new bear biologist
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04/11/23 11:57 AM
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It is a good thing to have hunters like this gal employed by the various agencies.
you can vote your way into socialism, but you will have to shoot your way out.
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Re: Minnesota's new bear biologist
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04/11/23 12:07 PM
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It is a good thing to have hunters like this gal employed by the various agencies. agreed.
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Re: Minnesota's new bear biologist
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04/11/23 02:20 PM
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As long as Dave G is gone it’s a good thing. If he is still involved it will be the same crap show. The straight shooter and best advocate was Karen Noyce, when she was forced out it was a bad day for Minnesotas bear management program.
Osky
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Re: Minnesota's new bear biologist
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Anyhow they should study bear hunters, they set laws to appease hunter sentiment more than biology
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Re: Minnesota's new bear biologist
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Tagging and/or gps collaring are great research tools, but only when the objectives of the study are clearly defined. What question needs to be answered, and specifically how will the tracking or tag return data be used to better manage the species. Too often these can end up with GeeWiz results like bear/moose/wolf #27 traveled 493 miles in 5 days. So what, thats what wild animals do. Or worse yet animal #27 gets a name and gets posted on facebook and gathers a following, and we all know where that leads. I agree, collaring is a valuable tool not just for conservation and understanding animal habits better but also for the medical field. I've been a part of a couple of winter den visits that focused more on the "how's" and "why's" of bear hibernation. For example, how do bears slow their heartbeat and oxygen intake so much to be able to survive yet not burn valuable calories while hibernating? What mechanisms do they employ to trigger a slower heartbeat? With more knowledge about this, the information gained can be transferred to the medical field and humans. Maybe there's a way to apply this understanding to a person that's in a coma to help them slow their body, use less energy, and recover faster. Bears are truly fascinating animals that can teach of a lot.
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Re: Minnesota's new bear biologist
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Sort of related in a way.
From research here from collared wolves we found out that the wolves killed a # of bears in the winter dragging them out of their dens. Ben Hopson, Anaktuvuk Pass Nunamiut wolfer, swore by tainted grizzly fat. He often stressed how much wolves love to eat bears. His method was to rub a chunk of tainted fat on a windblown rock and set a 9 there.
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Re: Minnesota's new bear biologist
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Sort of related in a way.
From research here from collared wolves we found out that the wolves killed a # of bears in the winter dragging them out of their dens. Recently ?? Thats been known/observed for decades at least amongst the people who spend any amount of time in the bush in these parts. Want good wolf bait, use bear.
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Re: Minnesota's new bear biologist
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Anybody got her number? "BR 549"
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Re: Minnesota's new bear biologist
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Forgive me but I'm automatically suspicious of young females, and for the most part young males that have been taught to think like females, these days.
Is she safely married to a man? With kids? Raised in an intact family with a father?
Yes, sexist but I'm long past being in touch with my feelings and I'm feeling - these days. Seriously? Good grief.
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Re: Minnesota's new bear biologist
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What is the new biologist supposed to be studying. Yep. I can't see any reason to spend $$ on an animal that has already been (studied) for years. I could give 2 craps if a bear travels 100 miles to look for food/Denning. They are animal doing what animals do, every year! But, as long as she's hired, I hope she listens to people that are out n about and have a handle on what's going on instead of reading a book on bear behavior and thinking it Gospel. She appears to be a hunter. That's great!. I just hope she follows her own path and doesn't go Woke.
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You have to remember that 1 out of 3 Democratic Voters is just as dumb as the other two.
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Re: Minnesota's new bear biologist
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What is the new biologist supposed to be studying. Yep. I can't see any reason to spend $$ on an animal that has already been (studied) for years. I could give 2 craps if a bear travels 100 miles to look for food/Denning. They are animal doing what animals do, every year! But, as long as she's hired, I hope she listens to people that are out n about and have a handle on what's going on instead of reading a book on bear behavior and thinking it Gospel. She appears to be a hunter. That's great!. I just hope she follows her own path and doesn't go Woke. Exactly right
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Re: Minnesota's new bear biologist
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Forgive me but I'm automatically suspicious of young females, and for the most part young males that have been taught to think like females, these days.
Is she safely married to a man? With kids? Raised in an intact family with a father?
Yes, sexist but I'm long past being in touch with my feelings and I'm feeling - these days. Seriously? Good grief. Yes, seriously. Just look around you. This woke BS is being driven by mostly women and the men they hold captive.
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Re: Minnesota's new bear biologist
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04/11/23 11:40 PM
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Well I’m not all that worked up against putting collars on bears. I’m sure each department if that’s what they call them, is allocated x amounts of money. What else would the bear group spend it on? They are in the field, hands on, more than can be said for others. If the money isn’t spent for that then what, more bike trails, hiking trails, nature centers on the edge of the major population centers ?
This being said I’m not nuts about it either. With all the COs prancing around wearing well pressed uniforms and driving new polished trucks at least I know some are literally getting their hands dirty. Best case scenario, they do learn something that helps the bears, bear hunters, or both. I’m neutral on it.
As a side note, I was fortunate enough to know Karen while she worked for the DNR and spent time with her. I do not believe anyone on this planet knows black bears as well as that woman. Simply amazing.
Osky
"A womans heart is the hardest rock the Almighty has put on this earth, and I can find no sign on it" Jabless in Minnesota www.SureDockusa.com
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