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Gas tractors #7851764
04/23/23 07:10 PM
04/23/23 07:10 PM
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I’m remembering that I hate gas tractors especially the 4000 John Deere, we have a diesel and a gas after all winter about a month ago started the diesel on the first try even with the temperature around 40 without any ether or begin plugged in, the gas I’m still trying to get started what a waste of iron.

Re: Gas tractors [Re: Bob_Iowa] #7851777
04/23/23 07:26 PM
04/23/23 07:26 PM
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Imo a gas tractor is worthless. You need a diesel pulling a plow,Disc and alot other implements.

Re: Gas tractors [Re: Bob_Iowa] #7851779
04/23/23 07:29 PM
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The idea was when we ground feed it would start easier, I’m getting to the point when I get it running, to sell it and buy a diesel, and deal with it in the winter if needed.

Re: Gas tractors [Re: Bob_Iowa] #7851784
04/23/23 07:34 PM
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My old tractor is gas and it starts and runs each spring ok. Maybe it's becuse it's red not green?

Re: Gas tractors [Re: Bob_Iowa] #7851794
04/23/23 07:41 PM
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Could be by the time deere got to the 4020 and 4000 they were giving up on gas and focusing on diesel.

Re: Gas tractors [Re: Bob_Iowa] #7851838
04/23/23 09:12 PM
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I think the biggest problem is todays gas. Lots of gas tractors I know if they have lots of issues with anymore

Re: Gas tractors [Re: Bob_Iowa] #7851841
04/23/23 09:18 PM
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Starbrite startron enzime treatment is the best thing I’ve ever seen for gas stuff that sits. Unbelievable actually.

Re: Gas tractors [Re: Bob_Iowa] #7851842
04/23/23 09:18 PM
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Did you run the gas out of the carb before storing for the winter? If not there lies your issue.

Re: Gas tractors [Re: Bob_Iowa] #7851856
04/23/23 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob_Iowa
Could be by the time deere got to the 4020 and 4000 they were giving up on gas and focusing on diesel.


Probably just the poor quality gas. Mine is a 1965 it's normally close to empty when I park it but still has an inch or two of gas in the tank. It normally only sits from November to March.

Re: Gas tractors [Re: Providence Farm] #7851876
04/23/23 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
My old tractor is gas and it starts and runs each spring ok. Maybe it's becuse it's red not green?



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Re: Gas tractors [Re: Providence Farm] #7851998
04/24/23 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
My old tractor is gas and it starts and runs each spring ok. Maybe it's becuse it's red not green?

My old Farmall (red) was a gas job and one of its attributes was it starting no matter what temperature it was out.


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Re: Gas tractors [Re: Bob_Iowa] #7852000
04/24/23 04:52 AM
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The old MD had a pony moter for starting. Then throw the lever to diesel.

Re: Gas tractors [Re: Providence Farm] #7852018
04/24/23 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
My old tractor is gas and it starts and runs each spring ok. Maybe it's becuse it's red not green?

Here we go grin

Re: Gas tractors [Re: Bob_Iowa] #7852078
04/24/23 07:41 AM
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We used to have a gas MF loader tractor. It was a yellow 202 work bull. It was fairly easy to fix. But it was a pain to find parts even from the dealer. But overall I miss it somewhat. All of the current lineup is diesel. But I prefer diesel. I have no experience with the John Deere 4000 series gas. Most of the 2 cylinder John Deere were gas if I remember correctly. Always fun to see a tractor thread on trapperman.


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Re: Gas tractors [Re: Bob_Iowa] #7856776
04/30/23 07:46 PM
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Corn planting took off this week so just getting back on here and had time to look at the tractor today, after a complete rebuild of the ignition system, and finding the governor pivot pins were sticky, I finally got it to idle but won’t speed up which on those it usually means the diaphragm is bad which can happen if they backfire which it did.

Re: Gas tractors [Re: Trapset] #7857106
05/01/23 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Trapset
Starbrite startron enzime treatment is the best thing I’ve ever seen for gas stuff that sits. Unbelievable actually.

Good to know


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Re: Gas tractors [Re: Bob_Iowa] #7857158
05/01/23 10:02 AM
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I'm old enough to have grown up using gas tractors built in 50's. Many were replacements for a team of horses, so only pulled 2 to maybe 4 row equipment. Many were only 40 HP or less. A farm likely had a 200 or 300 gallon fuel tank, so one tank fueled the cars, trucks, lawn mower, chain saws and tractor and tractor had to start in winter and not with help of electric block heaters or ether. And wasn't just tractors. Most combines back then also ran on gas. Oliver even made a combine powered by a 318 Chrysler.

So kinda, sorta made sense. But once equipment got larger in the 60's, diesel quickly took over everything, with old gas tractors kept around for utility work.

We are currently restoring a 1963 Allis D15 and it is a piece of work. A flimsy factory 3 point hitch that is not much bigger than some garden tractors today, yet same engine was also put into crawler dosers and bucket crawlers and other industrial tractors. For those that can remember, the engines used by most carnival rides were Allis gas engines. They have a distinctive sound under load.

Biggest problem with most of these old tractors today is lack of use. If they sit, they suffer. Also, I will only use 91 octane ethanol free gas in it, as ethanol in the gas attracts and collects water over time and that sets off all manner of rust. If not going to use it in winter, either keep it empty or keep it full of 91 octane, plus a can or two of Seafoam in it. And every single time I park it for any length of time beyond overnight, will turn off the gas and burn the carb out dry. And keep a can on the exhaust to keep the mud dabbers from getting any ideas on building a home in the muffler.


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Re: Gas tractors [Re: Bob_Iowa] #7857516
05/01/23 07:48 PM
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I had a guy tell me that the tractor ride guys have gone to burning 110 lead race gas because it at least is a quality gas and their tractors run really well on it, I might have to try some I’d hate to think what that’s going to cost per gallon.

Re: Gas tractors [Re: Bob_Iowa] #7857523
05/01/23 08:02 PM
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The last aviation fuel I bought was well over $5 a gallon. I never look at the price closely.

Re: Gas tractors [Re: HayDay] #7858012
05/02/23 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by HayDay
I'm old enough to have grown up using gas tractors built in 50's. Many were replacements for a team of horses, so only pulled 2 to maybe 4 row equipment. Many were only 40 HP or less. A farm likely had a 200 or 300 gallon fuel tank, so one tank fueled the cars, trucks, lawn mower, chain saws and tractor and tractor had to start in winter and not with help of electric block heaters or ether. And wasn't just tractors. Most combines back then also ran on gas. Oliver even made a combine powered by a 318 Chrysler.

So kinda, sorta made sense. But once equipment got larger in the 60's, diesel quickly took over everything, with old gas tractors kept around for utility work.

We are currently restoring a 1963 Allis D15 and it is a piece of work. A flimsy factory 3 point hitch that is not much bigger than some garden tractors today, yet same engine was also put into crawler dosers and bucket crawlers and other industrial tractors. For those that can remember, the engines used by most carnival rides were Allis gas engines. They have a distinctive sound under load.

Biggest problem with most of these old tractors today is lack of use. If they sit, they suffer. Also, I will only use 91 octane ethanol free gas in it, as ethanol in the gas attracts and collects water over time and that sets off all manner of rust. If not going to use it in winter, either keep it empty or keep it full of 91 octane, plus a can or two of Seafoam in it. And every single time I park it for any length of time beyond overnight, will turn off the gas and burn the carb out dry. And keep a can on the exhaust to keep the mud dabbers from getting any ideas on building a home in the muffler.





I had an old 1945 C model Allis. I ran 80/87 Av gas in it. 6 volt system plus a crank start. It tried to kill me several times. Had to keep a can over the exhaust so it didn't fill up with rain water.

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