Re: AI
[Re: Yes sir]
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05/03/23 07:41 PM
05/03/23 07:41 PM
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Where we would lose control is first we won't know it's AI that's controlling the events and when it gets smart enough to "write its own program or logic" and someone or group of someone's task it with a "job" and it starts moving towards that desired outcome, It will be able see its own weaknesses and put safeties in to secure its own success. Here's a simple scenario, say it realizes a certain person is a threat to stopping it in some way, it can use a mentally ill person it has already identified and groomed to take that person out or multiple persons to insure sucess. Or implement some kind of smear campaign or use planted digital evidence to either have that person arrested or de legitimize that persons influence. As I said before it would be like the CIA x at least a thousand.
The secret though is the masses not knowing it's AI doing it, and it's ability to analyze some much information that it can accurately predict and cause desired outcomes. Even when it would fail it would learn from it's mistakes at scary fast pace and be that much smarter at it's next move. This is why I just shake my head when the gun guys or anyone else says well I'm not doing anything wrong let them track me ect. They think it's a person doing the tracking and it would be impossible to track everything and everyone. They don't understand it is computers and they are already at a levels that can predict trends and how the masses will respond.
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Re: AI
[Re: Providence Farm]
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05/03/23 08:15 PM
05/03/23 08:15 PM
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Eastern Shore of Maryland
HobbieTrapper
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So what magic is going to power it continuously?
Why am I still having to charge my phone and wind my watch? It will have robots for that. Wireless up links and robots to fix the robots. Have you not seen some of the automated things in factories the last 20 years? AK steel has had overhead Crain's that pick up coils off self driving coil cars and places them in the warehouse since that plan in my area was built. No human required. It's old tec and very much more advanced now. I have seen factory robots build cars and things but I have never seen one fuel a power station or climb a pole or go out after a tornado or hurricane and stand poles and lines back up. AI isn’t going to become self aware and start procreating. It isn’t going to hunt people down. lol
-Goofy
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Re: AI
[Re: yotetrapper30]
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05/03/23 08:23 PM
05/03/23 08:23 PM
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williamsburg ks
danny clifton
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trap chat was going pretty good that night
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: AI
[Re: Yes sir]
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05/03/23 08:37 PM
05/03/23 08:37 PM
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Iowa
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Only way to stop feeding it is get offline correctly? And I don't see that happening, unless you want to live in a cabin in the words and live only off what you can catch, grow or make yourself. People are being forced to be online more and more even if you don't want to be. Wait till money is all digital. I don't think Ai can destroy human existence but it could potentially control the masses. Not many want to live a primal lifestyle where you only have what you catch, grow or eat yourself. My belief is that algorithms are based off of historical data. AI uses that and predictable futures to make decisions. "Predictable futures" to me are marketing and advertising which are like weatherman. High fives when you are right... "glad it wasn't worse when you are wrong."
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Re: AI
[Re: TrapperDR]
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05/03/23 08:44 PM
05/03/23 08:44 PM
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Marion Kansas
Yes sir
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Only way to stop feeding it is get offline correctly? And I don't see that happening, unless you want to live in a cabin in the words and live only off what you can catch, grow or make yourself. People are being forced to be online more and more even if you don't want to be. Wait till money is all digital. I don't think Ai can destroy human existence but it could potentially control the masses. Not many want to live a primal lifestyle where you only have what you catch, grow or eat yourself. My belief is that algorithms are based off of historical data. AI uses that and predictable futures to make decisions. "Predictable futures" to me are marketing and advertising which are like weatherman. High fives when you are right... "glad it wasn't worse when you are wrong." You maybe right. I'm not overly knowing on exactly how AI works. If your are correct there are some very smart and knowing people that are over selling the current abilities of AI.which is possible.
Last edited by Yes sir; 05/03/23 08:48 PM.
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Re: AI
[Re: GritGuy]
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05/03/23 09:18 PM
05/03/23 09:18 PM
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Iowa
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I think many are missing the point that no one will know until after the fact has been accomplished !
This is why it has to be so closely watched, although we will always have the part of human consumption wanting to use it for control, this is where the problems will make it take over, there has to be only one function made to have AI decide that it needs to be protected, and yes it will by that time have a deciding ability, after that, everything else will be toast ! Fungus has been trying to do the same for millions of years. It hasn't won yet...
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Re: AI
[Re: GritGuy]
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05/03/23 09:27 PM
05/03/23 09:27 PM
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Eastern Shore of Maryland
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I think many are missing the point that no one will know until after the fact has been accomplished !
This is why it has to be so closely watched, although we will always have the part of human consumption wanting to use it for control, this is where the problems will make it take over, there has to be only one function made to have AI decide that it needs to be protected, and yes it will by that time have a deciding ability, after that, everything else will be toast ! Please tell us what it will take over? Will it take over farming? How about slaughter houses? What will it take over that we cannot live without?
-Goofy
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