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How many Minnesotans put up beaver?
#7862038
05/08/23 10:24 PM
05/08/23 10:24 PM
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Oregon
beaverpeeler
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Just curious what the % of trappers in Minnesota put up your own beaver? Are there still a lot of carcass buyers in your state?
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Re: How many Minnesotans put up beaver?
[Re: beaverpeeler]
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05/09/23 06:47 AM
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Typically I put up all of mine but this Spring I just sold them on the carcass. Matt it only 10 minutes away and my garage is no longer really set up for putting up fur.
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Re: How many Minnesotans put up beaver?
[Re: beaverpeeler]
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05/09/23 09:51 AM
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So how many beaver are being caught per year in Minnesota? Oregon used to see harvests of around 10,000 but in the last couple of years it is down around 10% of that. No carcass buyers in our state that I know of. Not one.
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Re: How many Minnesotans put up beaver?
[Re: beaverpeeler]
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05/09/23 10:33 AM
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So how are carcass beaver prices right now?
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Re: How many Minnesotans put up beaver?
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#7862277
05/09/23 11:12 AM
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james bay frontierOnt.
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They must be higher than finished skins only because they are buying the skins the castors and the meat. So a skin alone not put up worth $30 would need to add $6 or so avg for the castor and $10 for the meat.That would put a carcass beaver value avg at $45.
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Re: How many Minnesotans put up beaver?
[Re: beaverpeeler]
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05/09/23 11:15 AM
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james bay frontierOnt.
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Heading out to the shed to skin a few beaver and rats. Been selling tanned rats lately for $35 ea.
Last edited by Boco; 05/09/23 11:16 AM.
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Re: How many Minnesotans put up beaver?
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05/09/23 11:59 AM
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That's a great a great price you're getting Boco. Strike while the iron is hot
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Re: How many Minnesotans put up beaver?
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#7862396
05/09/23 03:12 PM
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That is a nice haul for 10 days. Congrats!
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Re: How many Minnesotans put up beaver?
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#7862401
05/09/23 03:27 PM
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james bay frontierOnt.
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That's a great a great price you're getting Boco. Strike while the iron is hot Not a big market by any means,but local people who are looking for tanned fur buy for making hats,or order hats.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: How many Minnesotans put up beaver?
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#7862405
05/09/23 03:32 PM
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james bay frontierOnt.
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That is a nice haul for 10 days. Congrats! Yes,very good. 5 a day is about perfect if you are putting up your own beaver,can run the line and have plenty of time for skinning on the line or after supper.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: How many Minnesotans put up beaver?
[Re: Boco]
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05/09/23 03:52 PM
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They must be higher than finished skins only because they are buying the skins the castors and the meat. So a skin alone not put up worth $30 would need to add $6 or so avg for the castor and $10 for the meat.That would put a carcass beaver value avg at $45. Minus the cost of skinning and fleshing unless you work for free.
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Re: How many Minnesotans put up beaver?
[Re: Boco]
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05/09/23 08:16 PM
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backroadsarcher
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Kay Bachman used to put up everyones beaver there. Yep lived right next to them. I used bring my carcasses to them for their fox farm, years ago.
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Re: How many Minnesotans put up beaver?
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#7862604
05/09/23 08:49 PM
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I remember her demos. She was a heck of a lady and a far better skinner than I will ever be. I think Wheelers was a little sweet on her at one time too.
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Re: How many Minnesotans put up beaver?
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05/09/23 08:56 PM
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james bay frontierOnt.
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They must be higher than finished skins only because they are buying the skins the castors and the meat. So a skin alone not put up worth $30 would need to add $6 or so avg for the castor and $10 for the meat.That would put a carcass beaver value avg at $45. Minus the cost of skinning and fleshing unless you work for free. Thats why I said 30 avg.Took it into account. Last time I talked with Kay was at a convention in Thunder bay,quite a while ago.maybe mid,or late 00.
Last edited by Boco; 05/09/23 09:05 PM.
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Re: How many Minnesotans put up beaver?
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05/09/23 11:02 PM
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Carcass market here is running in the 22 to 26 dollar range, we don't use that funny money with the queen on the front.
"Gold is money, everything else is just credit" JP Morgan
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Re: How many Minnesotans put up beaver?
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05/09/23 11:05 PM
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More about Mrs. Bachman from MPR radio.https://www.mprnews.org/story/2007/12/17/championskinner It's well worth opening up the link and listening to the interview.
If anyone has that DVD and would sell it, I'm more than interested.
A visit to Kay Bachman is a little like going to grandma's house. She greets you with a big smile, there's fresh cookies and coffee on the counter in her neat as a pin kitchen.
Oh, and there's a dead beaver lying on a small table in the dining room.
"I got a little guy because I figured they're faster to do than a big guy," says Bachman.
Speed is of the essence if she wants to retain her title as North America's fastest woman beaver skinner.
Grow the Future of Public Media MPR News is Member supported public media. Show your support during the Spring Member Drive, donate, and ensure access to local news and in-depth conversations for everyone.
Donate Today Skinning Using a well worn, rounded knife that looks something like a big thumb, Kay Bachman deftly starts slicing away the beaver hide. She pulls the skin with one hand and cuts it loose from the body with quick, short strokes of her knife.MPR Photo/Dan Gunderson Using a well worn, rounded knife that looks something like a big thumb, Bachman deftly starts slicing away the beaver hide. She pulls the skin with one hand and cuts it loose from the body with quick, short strokes of her knife.
It's something she's done thousands of times.
"You take 35 years times about three months and I could do 50 a day for three months, seven days a week. So if somebody wants to get ambitious and do the math," says Bachman with a chuckle.
Add it all up and Kay Bachman has skinned more than 150,000 beavers.
It's a disappearing skill that was once in high demand in Minnesota where the beaver helped build more than one family fortune.
Kay Bachman's skinning career started more than 50 years ago when she married a trapper. He ran the trap line, she did the skinning. Then a local fur buyer asked if she'd skin beaver for $1.50 a hide.
"I thought, 'I can stay home make some money and do this.' I had four young ones at home, so I just started skinning at home and it just developed into one thing after another. It was a normal part of making a nickel at home and not having to hire a baby sitter and go out," Bachman explains.
"So I'd usually get up about 7:00 am and get the kids off to school, sit down and start skinning. It was nice because we had linoleum on our floors and I could bring in 50 beaver and do them right in the living room and still take care of my other jobs in the house. Of course I didn't have a lot of friends over. The women just did not want to come and have tea with me," says Bachman with a hearty laugh.
Kay Bachman hasn't done much skinning since her husband died six years ago. But she says she was raised to be self sufficient, and wielding a knife was an essential skill.
"It's something I've done all my life. I'd go out and shoot my own cow in the pasture, skin her out and bring her home and cut her up and put her in the freezer," says Bachman matter of factly. "It was a normal way of life for me."
Award display Kay Bachman has won the title as national champion beaver skinner four times in a row.MPR Photo/Dan Gunderson There's a rhythm to the skinning as Bachman methodically removes the beaver skin.
"This is so relaxing. To me it's therapy. I can just sit and forget the world exists and skin and skin all day," says Bachman. "Some women sit and knit and crochet and I skin beaver."
It takes 15 minutes from start to finish. That's a bit slower than her competition times, but she says it's a good warmup. Her winning time in competition is about 30 minutes, and that includes mounting the pelt on a board after the skinning is completed.
Kay Bachman spends her retirement traveling to trapping conventions and gun shows where she sells handmade fur hats. She occasionally visits classrooms to talk about the role of beaver trapping in Minnesota's history.
Kay Bachman will travel to East Bay Ontario later this winter to defend her beaver skinning title.
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1 of 1 Kay Bachman, beaver lady Kay Bachman, from Detroit Lakes, is preparing to defend her title as North America's champion beaver skinner.MPR Photo/Dan Gunderson
"Gold is money, everything else is just credit" JP Morgan
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Re: How many Minnesotans put up beaver?
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05/10/23 07:09 AM
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Shakeyjake
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We don’t have a market like that here. I used to buy carcasses off an old trapper for “5 of her majesty’s notes” a piece when I was younger for bear hunting. I read in our Wildlife Act recently that we can’t do that, but we can “give” them away. Strange, how one can drive 1 hour south and the market completely changes….lol
Wind Blew, crap flew, out came the line crew
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