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"Birth of a Nation," the 1915 Civil War Classic #7868448
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"Birth of a Nation," the 1915 Civil War, first ever Blockbuster movie, is free on YouTube.



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First film shown in the White House. Highly praised by Woodrow Wilson, a progressive demoncrat.


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Re: "Birth of a Nation," the 1915 Civil War Classic [Re: KeithC] #7868453
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Liberals don't llike it anymore. They blame the movie for the rise of the KKK, for accurately depicting, well documented atrocities committed by African Americans during and after the Civil War. Segregation and the Jim Crow laws were in response to the atrocities committed by many blacks. Unfairly, Segregation and the Jim Crow laws were enforced against decent black folk too. It was easier and safer to discriminate against all blacks than to just go after the many bad ones, as they should of rightly done.

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Re: "Birth of a Nation," the 1915 Civil War Classic [Re: KeithC] #7868454
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Yes.LOL. A part of the Democrats history they don't like to talk about. And don't want your common CNN and MSNBC watcher to know about. This is the movie that brought on a resurgence of the good old KKK in the 20s. Margret Sanger is tied in with that movement too.

Good old movie. I wish every jelly- headed, woke, panty wearing liberal was tied to a chair and made to watch this.

Re: "Birth of a Nation," the 1915 Civil War Classic [Re: KeithC] #7869013
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If whipping up anti-black sentiment with innuendo, stereotyping and outright falsehoods is your idea of a good thing then this is the movie for you. In the 1920's American blacks sure didn't need much help to get white people in a tizzy. At the time Oregon still had a slough of anti-black laws on the books and I'm sure other states did as well.


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Re: "Birth of a Nation," the 1915 Civil War Classic [Re: KeithC] #7869026
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Re: "Birth of a Nation," the 1915 Civil War Classic [Re: KeithC] #7869142
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i tried to watch it but was not interesting to me


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Re: "Birth of a Nation," the 1915 Civil War Classic [Re: danny clifton] #7869154
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
i tried to watch it but was not interesting to me

Watching it in bits and pieces myself. I've made it to the eve of Bull Run.

Re: "Birth of a Nation," the 1915 Civil War Classic [Re: beaverpeeler] #7869183
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
If whipping up anti-black sentiment with innuendo, stereotyping and outright falsehoods is your idea of a good thing then this is the movie for you. In the 1920's American blacks sure didn't need much help to get white people in a tizzy. At the time Oregon still had a slough of anti-black laws on the books and I'm sure other states did as well.


Can just watch the news instead.

Re: "Birth of a Nation," the 1915 Civil War Classic [Re: KeithC] #7869206
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Seems like an odd way to spend 3 hours.

Re: "Birth of a Nation," the 1915 Civil War Classic [Re: Blaine County] #7869208
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
Seems like an odd way to spend 3 hours.

The anti woke history is what is interesting to me. I enjoy seeing what the perceptions of past generations were.

Re: "Birth of a Nation," the 1915 Civil War Classic [Re: KeithC] #7869437
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
If whipping up anti-black sentiment with innuendo, stereotyping and outright falsehoods is your idea of a good thing then this is the movie for you. In the 1920's American blacks sure didn't need much help to get white people in a tizzy. At the time Oregon still had a slough of anti-black laws on the books and I'm sure other states did as well.


Carl, have you watched it? It shows the bad black people behaving better than they did in tens of thousands of real videos from the last few years, when they did literally billions of dollars in damage to our country. The movie is historically accurate, except that it actually toned down most of the worse behavior. It shows very decent black people too.

When I was an undergrad, one of the history classes I took used all primary source accounts. Things were truly terrible in the South during the years following the Civil War.

The movie is 108 years old and was still made more politically correct in it's portrayals. For instance the 2 villains both want to "marry" their victims.

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Wilson was a racist, the film is garbage, 108 years ago and now. What Carl said is true.

Re: "Birth of a Nation," the 1915 Civil War Classic [Re: KeithC] #7869499
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Keith, I have not seen the film and don't ever intend to. I know enough about its content from reading reviews to know it's not my type of flick. A movie that single-handedly brought back the KKK to prominence when it had just about run its course tells me all I need to know. (The movie was originally titled "The Clansman").

On a positive note though, it did help organize black support of the nascent NAACP which tried to get the movie banned. Unsuccessfully.


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Seems like an odd way to spend 3 hours.

The anti woke history is what is interesting to me. I enjoy seeing what the perceptions of past generations were.


What is "anti woke history"? You made that up.

Re: "Birth of a Nation," the 1915 Civil War Classic [Re: KeithC] #7869550
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In 1992, the Library of Congress deemed "Birth of a Nation" "culturally, historically and aesthetically significant" and selected it for preservation in the National Film Registry.

You don't have to agree with any message the movie has to watch it. I watch lots of TV shows, movies and news programs, that I disagree with. That's definitely the case with BBC America and the PBS News Hour for me. It's good to experience different viewpoints and ways of looking at the world. It's interesting to see what a different period of time was like, even if somewhat fictionalized.

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Originally Posted by KeithC
In 1992, the Library of Congress deemed "Birth of a Nation" "culturally, historically and aesthetically significant" and selected it for preservation in the National Film Registry.

You don't have to agree with any message the movie has to watch it. I watch lots of TV shows, movies and news programs, that I disagree with. That's definitely the case with BBC America and the PBS News Hour for me. It's good to experience different viewpoints and ways of looking at the world. It's interesting to see what a different period of time was like, even if somewhat fictionalized.

Keith

Exactly , the point of history , that is being destroyed today.
Those that go to a job , for 8 hours a day then spend their lives depending on others for their meals and housing , ( even thought they pay for it )have no idea what it's like in the real dog eat dog real world.
Most have never cooked for themselves or even did their own laundry .


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Most folks don't spend their days focused on the past when they are young and trying to provide for their families.
I truly enjoy history but have zero expectations that the history of the last 100 years will repeat itself. Times are always changing. Keep up or go stagnant. Doesn't mean you can't appreciate the past just don't count on it returning.

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Have made it to Reconstruction. Seems like Barrack O. may have modeled his leadership after the character Sylas.

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That was a long one to watch but thanks for the share Keith. The film shows the democrat party hasn't changed it's tactics but just changed the players. Instead of KKK it's now BLM.

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Originally Posted by KeithC
Liberals don't llike it anymore. They blame the movie for the rise of the KKK, for accurately depicting, well documented atrocities committed by African Americans during and after the Civil War. Segregation and the Jim Crow laws were in response to the atrocities committed by many blacks. Unfairly, Segregation and the Jim Crow laws were enforced against decent black folk too. It was easier and safer to discriminate against all blacks than to just go after the many bad ones, as they should of rightly done.

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Do they? When was the last time a prominent Democrat or liberal talking head openly denounce Wilson or the KKK? The actual KKK not the people they accused of being in the KKK. Every other building in West Virginia seemingly is named after a prominent KkK member.

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I have watched the first half.
I will watch the second half later.
So far it just seems like a corny old movie with a bunch of white people in blackface,and some not.
The historical perspective so far(Like the assasination of Lincoln by Booth) is touched on but a bit fluffy.


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Originally Posted by KeithC


Carl, have you watched it? It shows the bad black people behaving better than they did in tens of thousands of real videos from the last few years, when they did literally billions of dollars in damage to our country. The movie is historically accurate, except that it actually toned down most of the worse behavior. It shows very decent black people too.



If slaves/former slaves in the south acted like BLM today they would of been shot, lynched or beaten so badly that they'd wish they'd been shot.

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Originally Posted by Boco
I have watched the first half.
I will watch the second half later.
So far it just seems like a corny old movie with a bunch of white people in blackface,and some not.
The historical perspective so far(Like the assasination of Lincoln by Booth) is touched on but a bit fluffy.

The black face of then rivals the white face of now.

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Money is only valuable because we say it is. The past is the past. And things are only important because someone or some group think they are

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What I want to know is….who went for the doctor for the birth?


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