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Adirondack coyote/wolf history #7891881
06/24/23 10:19 AM
06/24/23 10:19 AM
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Adirondacks, NY
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I have been reading a very interesting unpublished book written by mother in law regarding her youth and life on the farm growing up on a very rural farm in the south central adirondacks. In it she talks about keeping two summer pastures, one for the cows, and a seperate one for the sheep which had to be protected from the "wolves and coyotes..
This was during the late 1920's and 1930's.
ESUF claims that the first eastern coyotes appeared in the adironacks between 1920 and 1940. Earlier trappers like O'.L Butcher, Johnny Thorpe, Raymond Duntley, and others referred to them as brush wolves and so do I. The term coydog is incorrect.
I caught my first coyote at Foxx Lair in the south central adirondacks in the early 60''s. Interestingly that is only about two to three miles from the farm where my mother in law grew up.
Of interest to me was that as a youth my dad and I rented a cabin on the Rideau lake in Ontario which had numerous algonquin wolf pelts scattered about..Those pelts looked exactly like the coyotes I have caught.in the adirondacks..
I have a relative that had several beagles killed by coyotes while chained to their doghouses. I too have had foxes killed by them in my traps. I have no love for the coyotes!
I have never caught a wolf, but have seen their tracks in very remote locations while trapping beaver. A good friend caught one and had a hard time getting it out of the woods because of it's weight. It was classified as a wolf at Fur Harvesters.
Finally I have had coyotes scare me while checking beaver traps at night. Very glad to get back in the truck.

Re: Adirondack coyote/wolf history [Re: Fisher Man] #7891922
06/24/23 11:35 AM
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Interesting thread. Lewis and Clark first encountered “coyotes”, or prairie wolves in 1804 around present day Onawa Iowa. Dang near in SoDak. A lil history on the name.

At the time, Lewis’s “burrowing dog of the praries” seemed the most explicitly descriptive name for the species, but “prarie wolf” and “brush wolf” seemed appropriate also. No one in the Corps had yet heard of a “coyote.” An English-language version of the native (Nahuatl) Mexican word coyotl first appeared in print in 1824, proceeding from “coyjotte”[4] to “collates” to “cayeute” until it reached its orthographic terminus in the 1880s as “coyote,” now pronounced either ki-yoh-tee or ki-yote, depending on local preference or personal habit.

Re: Adirondack coyote/wolf history [Re: Fisher Man] #7892251
06/24/23 06:15 PM
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Al, was that out on Rt 8 in Johnsburg, Caught a few Coyotes along Rt 8 out towards the old Boy Scout camp. That was a long line for me, about 120 miles round trip.


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Re: Adirondack coyote/wolf history [Re: Fisher Man] #7892297
06/24/23 07:28 PM
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Yes that is the same location.Prior to acquiring the property by the Boy Scouts it had been the Foxx Lair estate. I trapped that country south to the Wells bridge, both sides of the road into Cod pond and Little Joe on the east and back to Diamond, Black, Square Falls on the West I had nice fisher catches in the Diamond Muntain swamp. Caught a grinner one time at Foxx lair in a coyote set., Mink along the river..I used to cross the river on a pair of cables strung at the upper end of foxx lair.That was when gas was cheap and I was young and foolish..Most of the old clearings are grown back up. I lived in Warrensburgh at the time.

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