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Re: Will The Beaver Market Hold? [Re: ] #7901867
07/08/23 07:12 PM
07/08/23 07:12 PM
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I'll take the same amount of beaver I always have for the last 40 years on my lines.
Its all about keeping the trapline healthy.
You dont manage beaver based on the price of the pelts if you want to have a productive RTL.


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Re: Will The Beaver Market Hold? [Re: Boco] #7901909
07/08/23 08:19 PM
07/08/23 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
I'll take the same amount of beaver I always have for the last 40 years on my lines.
Its all about keeping the trapline healthy.
You dont manage beaver based on the price of the pelts if you want to have a productive RTL.


That's a nice advantage you Canadians have. Around here if you don't kill em somebody else will

Re: Will The Beaver Market Hold? [Re: ] #7901921
07/08/23 08:44 PM
07/08/23 08:44 PM
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Oregon
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For me big beaver catches mean I have to do a lot of traveling. My motus operandi is to set a stretch of 15 miles of river with maybe 20-30 traps, do three checks and move on to the next stretch of river, or another watershed altogether. That way I always leave plenty of seed for next year. But when I set my mind to it I can catch 500+ beaver in a season. And the next year too. Just more territory to cover.


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Re: Will The Beaver Market Hold? [Re: beaverpeeler] #7901925
07/08/23 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
For me big beaver catches mean I have to do a lot of traveling. My motus operandi is to set a stretch of 15 miles of river with maybe 20-30 traps, do three checks and move on to the next stretch of river, or another watershed altogether. That way I always leave plenty of seed for next year. But when I set my mind to it I can catch 500+ beaver in a season. And the next year too. Just more territory to cover.

BP, given idea conditions running the river line how many do you think you take on a 10 day run?

Re: Will The Beaver Market Hold? [Re: ] #7901948
07/08/23 09:44 PM
07/08/23 09:44 PM
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Alabama (Bama for short) 108 y...
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...and no knowledgeable nuisance beaver trappers.


Well that's even worse when you have to go clean up their mess, lol. Had a couple of those last winter, got less hair on my head now than before if that's possible, lol.


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Re: Will The Beaver Market Hold? [Re: ] #7902057
07/09/23 02:01 AM
07/09/23 02:01 AM
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Oregon
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Originally Posted by J Staton
Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
For me big beaver catches mean I have to do a lot of traveling. My motus operandi is to set a stretch of 15 miles of river with maybe 20-30 traps, do three checks and move on to the next stretch of river, or another watershed altogether. That way I always leave plenty of seed for next year. But when I set my mind to it I can catch 500+ beaver in a season. And the next year too. Just more territory to cover.

BP, given idea conditions running the river line how many do you think you take on a 10 day run?

Under ideal conditions (which rarely align in my experience) about 10-15 beaver per day. But I rarely trap a straight 10 days without taking off a few days in there to catch up on skinning. I'm usually too tired to skin after running river all day. Not a youngster anymore.


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Re: Will The Beaver Market Hold? [Re: ] #7902061
07/09/23 02:49 AM
07/09/23 02:49 AM
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As long as your trapped fur prices are dependant on value-added, finished, durable goods, your fur prices will always be cyclic. There are any number of sources available from which felt can be manufactured from. When the market for high quality, high priced goods becomes saturated, prices will either fall and/or beaver will be replaced with more inexpensive alternatives until the next fad comes along.

Just my thoughts, snares are inexpensive (relatively) so for the upcoming season; yes, I'd build some snares for beaver. Not sure I would be putting big $$$ into additional traps for beaver. Beyond the upcoming season, I'd watch inventory and price action within the markets.


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Re: Will The Beaver Market Hold? [Re: ] #7902095
07/09/23 07:13 AM
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Re: Will The Beaver Market Hold? [Re: ] #7902164
07/09/23 09:00 AM
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Enjoy trapping beaver where and when you can, here in WA there is a movement to ban not only trapping beaver but trapping period

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Re: Will The Beaver Market Hold? [Re: ] #7902279
07/09/23 12:16 PM
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Jingles is right. There is a movement right now that identifies beaver as critical keystone species that improve drought stricken areas, restore wildlife habitat and reverse global warming. In Oregon we have been doing our best to fend off new legislation brought by these groups. We already lost one battle about recreational beaver trapping on private forestlands.


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Re: Will The Beaver Market Hold? [Re: ] #7902471
07/09/23 06:12 PM
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The market will hold strong unless I decide to hit beaver strong, then it will collapse!! Maybe someone should start a “go fund me” page for me to keep me from trapping!!


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Re: Will The Beaver Market Hold? [Re: beaverpeeler] #7903029
07/10/23 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
Jingles is right. There is a movement right now that identifies beaver as critical keystone species that improve drought stricken areas, restore wildlife habitat and reverse global warming. In Oregon we have been doing our best to fend off new legislation brought by these groups. We already lost one battle about recreational beaver trapping on private forestlands.

The anti's argument here in Colorado used to be that if you trap them, they become more prolific and have bigger litters, thereby creating bigger problems for landowners, public land road culverts, cutting down more trees along river banks creating more erosion, etc. Now they don't want them trapped at all so they can have more beaver to preserve the environment??

Re: Will The Beaver Market Hold? [Re: Jingles] #7903209
07/10/23 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Jingles
Enjoy trapping beaver where and when you can, here in WA there is a movement to ban not only trapping beaver but trapping period

Cause you can only trap with live cages right?


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Re: Will The Beaver Market Hold? [Re: ] #7903270
07/10/23 11:28 PM
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Just got off the phone with a guy who talked to GFW today. He was told beaver would be “lower” this fall due to the Yellowstone TV show ending. Didn’t say how much lower.

Don’t kill the messenger, just passing on what the man told me.
I hope it’s BS as well. Lol

Re: Will The Beaver Market Hold? [Re: ] #7903285
07/11/23 12:27 AM
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I knew a buyer that never failed to tell me in the off season to expect lower prices next season for reasons X,Y and Z. I always figured he wanted my fur for less and was brokering a better buyers position.


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Re: Will The Beaver Market Hold? [Re: ] #7903290
07/11/23 12:42 AM
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Probably got flack from end users for overpaying for the flat summer beaver,lol.
Avg down.Like I told you.

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Re: Will The Beaver Market Hold? [Re: ] #7903464
07/11/23 10:37 AM
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^^^They couldn't possibly end up happy with flat southern beaver felt yields compared to the northern stuff. Eventually the felters will demand that beaver get graded according to how much felt they will yield.


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Re: Will The Beaver Market Hold? [Re: ] #7903489
07/11/23 11:22 AM
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My source says yes, the market will hold.

Re: Will The Beaver Market Hold? [Re: Boco] #7903490
07/11/23 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Boco
Probably got flack from end users for overpaying for the flat summer beaver,lol.
Avg down.Like I told you.


GFW makes his own felt, so he is the end user. He just adjusted some existing machine to the felt setting.


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Re: Will The Beaver Market Hold? [Re: Boco] #7903516
07/11/23 12:08 PM
07/11/23 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
Probably got flack from end users for overpaying for the flat summer beaver,lol.
Avg down.Like I told you.

Possibly.

But, that don't mean the market wants those northern heavies any more than they do today. So, the prices at auction will drop too...

My nuisance trapping service charge ain't dropping.

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