Re: They ain’t lazy
[Re: Gary Benson]
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Then prices would go even higher. Then so be it. With out government subsidized farming and regulations that limit entry for the small guy food prices would be where they should be. The true cost to produce food is much higher. Bringing people back to reality would be a good thing. Illegals also use the er like a primary care provider. Increasing wait times and since they don't pay the bill it also drives it the cost of services for those that do pay.
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Re: They ain’t lazy
[Re: buster916]
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NO IT WOULD NOT!!! When these companies hire Illegals they hire them for pennies but notice how that does not bring down their overall cost to you!! Now we also Support these Illegals with Tax paid Funds while they send their money out of the country to their Families. Ever wonder how much it costs the tax payers for their Tax paid Housing Medical and Welfare?? Ever wonder how much it costs the tax payers for OUR medical because they are not immunized?? Ever wonder why diseases that we eradicated years ago are now coming back in strength like Polio and the Poxes?? You people that sell America short are just trying to push your Illegal BS!! Likje Hobbie stated, America will step up when they get hungry!! Americans do not want to scam the system and the Illegals are keeping wages at starvation levels. So don't feed me that BS!! I watched it in Super Steel. They were hiring Welders for 8 to 10 an hour and these Illegals drove it down to that level. BUT they were using stolen and Fake SSI and ID's to work at that wage BUT they were then getting Welfare Free Housing and Free Medical and Education and then sending Hundreds of Millions a year back to their home country and you claim that is good for the economy?? I suggest you take an economics class. When the tax payers are paying it that is not driving or supporting the economy!!! Trump tried to tell you people that and nobody listened. Now Hair Sniffer wants to FORCE us to Hire them. No way to vet them but they do not care until they get the explosives they want and commit another 9/11. How much you want to bet that they blame Trump or the Coal Miners but never the dumbarse rules they want. Open Borders and bringing in Illegals by the Millions to take our jobs is not good for the economy or the nation. History has already showed us that!!!
God please keep they 19 fallen UBB miners out of trouble up there.
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Re: They ain’t lazy
[Re: HobbieTrapper]
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07/14/23 09:44 AM
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Yeah Savell is right. They work hard but need a little supervision. They are thick as fleas on a dogs back here.
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Re: They ain’t lazy
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07/14/23 09:48 AM
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It's not just agriculture that would crash. But that's a good example. Most sectors rely on the labor.
As importantly, the illegals (and their legal children) buy gas, cars, food, clothes and every other consumer good. They pay rent or buy homes.
Magically send them back and the drop in consumption would be another devastating hit to the economy.
And the government will stop collecting taxes on fake SSNs (for which it never pays a tax refund or social security check).
It's just reality at this point. MY GOD you really do not get it!! Now just how much money in taxes do they pay when they claim 15 dependants?? I know that for a fact because when the Feds showed up at Super Steel they showed me. Don't go into that lying BS about what they pay in rent or homes. They live on Government Housing and welfare and most of their money goes back to their Homeland. Just more BC BS!!! BTW Used to be they were allowed to come here to work Agriculture jobs but then return home. Now you leftist just want them to come here ILLEGALLY and stay and you do not care WHO they are!!! They steal jobs from Americans by working for pennys on the Dollar. Americans work Pay Taxes and do contribute to the economy and pay their way and do NOT live on Welfare and Government Tax paid Freebies while sending money back to a different Country!!! YOU really need an economics course!!! Maybe then you would quit lying and claim people only have 80 dollars in the Bank!!!
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God please keep they 19 fallen UBB miners out of trouble up there.
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Re: They ain’t lazy
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07/14/23 09:50 AM
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It's not just agriculture that would crash. But that's a good example. Most sectors rely on the labor.
As importantly, the illegals (and their legal children) buy gas, cars, food, clothes and every other consumer good. They pay rent or buy homes.
Magically send them back and the drop in consumption would be another devastating hit to the economy.
And the government will stop collecting taxes on fake SSNs (for which it never pays a tax refund or social security check).
It's just reality at this point. Excellent observation. And the food trucks selling tacos in parking lots would go broke.
Life ain't supposed to be easy.
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Re: They ain’t lazy
[Re: Blaine County]
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Our economy would crash without them. Yup, what would we do without low skilled cheap labor that companies can take advantage of? Just imagine if they weren't here. All companies would have to pay a decent wage to attract their labor force. As it is now, they get to balance their checkbooks on the backs of poor people willing to work for starvation wages, thats goooood for the economy.
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Re: They ain’t lazy
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Then prices would go even higher. Then so be it. With out government subsidized farming and regulations that limit entry for the small guy food prices would be where they should be. The true cost to produce food is much higher. Bringing people back to reality would be a good thing. Illegals also use the er like a primary care provider. Increasing wait times and since they don't pay the bill it also drives it the cost of services for those that do pay. Like.
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Re: They ain’t lazy
[Re: HobbieTrapper]
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07/14/23 10:02 AM
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So prices of goods would go down if companies had to pay higher wages? I think not. Look at the cost of McD food since they started paying $15/hr.
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Re: They ain’t lazy
[Re: randall brannon]
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NO IT WOULD NOT!!! When these companies hire Illegals they hire them for pennies but notice how that does not bring down their overall cost to you!! Now we also Support these Illegals with Tax paid Funds while they send their money out of the country to their Families. Ever wonder how much it costs the tax payers for their Tax paid Housing Medical and Welfare?? Ever wonder how much it costs the tax payers for OUR medical because they are not immunized?? Ever wonder why diseases that we eradicated years ago are now coming back in strength like Polio and the Poxes?? You people that sell America short are just trying to push your Illegal BS!! Likje Hobbie stated, America will step up when they get hungry!! Americans do not want to scam the system and the Illegals are keeping wages at starvation levels. So don't feed me that BS!! I watched it in Super Steel. They were hiring Welders for 8 to 10 an hour and these Illegals drove it down to that level. BUT they were using stolen and Fake SSI and ID's to work at that wage BUT they were then getting Welfare Free Housing and Free Medical and Education and then sending Hundreds of Millions a year back to their home country and you claim that is good for the economy?? I suggest you take an economics class. When the tax payers are paying it that is not driving or supporting the economy!!! Trump tried to tell you people that and nobody listened. Now Hair Sniffer wants to FORCE us to Hire them. No way to vet them but they do not care until they get the explosives they want and commit another 9/11. How much you want to bet that they blame Trump or the Coal Miners but never the dumbarse rules they want. Open Borders and bringing in Illegals by the Millions to take our jobs is not good for the economy or the nation. History has already showed us that!!! Randall. there are a lot of Americans that scam the system. They won't go to work when they get hungry. They will just cry louder until they're fed. And our government WILL feed them, no matter whose in office. While illegals are a problem that need to be solved, it ain't going to be easy.
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Re: They ain’t lazy
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07/14/23 10:21 AM
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True. With government spending where it is now there will never be accountability nor responsibility again until a total collapse. Then it'll be every man for himself.
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Re: They ain’t lazy
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07/15/23 08:12 AM
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Having worked as a commercial carpenter for over 20 years, the wages paid haven't kept up with the cost of living since before I started. Porous borders and the cheap labor that came with it, have killed carpentry as a good paying job when working for a contractor. Now I work building cabinets and do enjoy it, but the wages for that job are truly archaic. Lol. All is well though. I'm going to get rich selling beaver plews this winter!
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Re: They ain’t lazy
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Having worked as a commercial carpenter for over 20 years, the wages paid haven't kept up with the cost of living since before I started. Porous borders and the cheap labor that came with it, have killed carpentry as a good paying job when working for a contractor. Now I work building cabinets and do enjoy it, but the wages for that job are truly archaic. Lol. All is well though. I'm going to get rich selling beaver plews this winter! That is the Fact!!! Illegals have destroyed Americans wages and even the leftist know it but they accept it!!!
God please keep they 19 fallen UBB miners out of trouble up there.
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Re: They ain’t lazy
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Randall, based on your comments I’m assuming you don’t own or run a business. Just wanting something to be true to fit a narrative doesn’t mean it’s true. Blaine co is right. Maybe not a total crash but definitely worse than the impact Covid had. When the ag sector crashes everything will eventually follow. YOU ARE WRONG. Like others on here have tried to point out to you leftist, when you accept Illegals and they work cheaper by scamming the government freebies and use stolen SSI and ID's they are keeping the wages down. Ever notice how the prices of new homes keep going up but wages stay low with Illegals?? USED to be AG used Immigrants on work Visas and then they went home. Now you Demonrats just bring them in and completely support them while they sneak off to steal Jobs. Those are the FACTS whether you want to admit them or not!!!
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God please keep they 19 fallen UBB miners out of trouble up there.
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Re: They ain’t lazy
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I was a mason for 50 years,never had a paid holiday or paid vacation! When it was to cold or raining to work we stayed home with no pay. Now I see mexican and others laying flake stone's and brick in weather that i no is to cold, but builders just want the job done. I've built commercial building that are state and government funded that at least have inspectors to watch over them. Also state and gov jobs you had to get a background check to work there. So very few illegals working for companies that do st. or gov funded buildings. (I'm not talking row houses and such,that is a whole different animal)
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