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Re: For Nuisance Beaver..Is It Better??? [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7908386
07/18/23 12:10 PM
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No one is belittling your work. No need to be so sensitive. Easy to catch beavers do exist that will stick their head into exposed BGs sitting in a stick fence at their dam. But, when you encounter those that will not approach such a setup, then you will need to reach deeper into that back pocket you refer to.

I was just stating that is a useless set for the jobs I get called to down here. Catch those nuisance beavs any way you can.


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Re: For Nuisance Beaver..Is It Better??? [Re: ToCatchAPredator] #7908389
07/18/23 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ToCatchAPredator
Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
A 330 on a crossover here, especially in summer, is about as useless as teats on a boar hog.

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Really I would beg to differ, caught this 51.7 lb breading female first night in this 330 crossover set to the stream on the other side

How many folks have tried to catch those beaver b4 you?

Also, in my post I said, "a 330 ON A CROSSOVER HERE.....is useless...."
You are in NY and that isn't a crossover.

Last edited by Swamp Wolf; 07/18/23 12:20 PM. Reason: More Info

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Re: For Nuisance Beaver..Is It Better??? [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7908391
07/18/23 12:18 PM
07/18/23 12:18 PM
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Swamp wolf, not being sensitive. The definition of belittling is down playing or taking merit away. If you’re taking merrit away from what I’m saying, it’s belittling. If the methods worked then they’re clearly successful so for you to say it won’t get you paid down there, well it does up here. For someone to state you can’t catch them in those spots and in that way, I’m showing that it is possible and don’t rule out that way.

Some beavers that are in real thick cover don’t mind sticks and fencing like that, something with an open bank and no vegetation, there’s no way a beaver would pass through.

Property owner says that he’s had people in there twice, and before used to call the old property owner who used to trap it to come help him. Property has been managed for a while up until I got there, I just had a better price and produced faster results


And how is that not a cross over where they are leaving from under the log, CROSSING OVER the land, and down the bank and into the stream? Again with definitions with you

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Re: For Nuisance Beaver..Is It Better??? [Re: ToCatchAPredator] #7908402
07/18/23 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ToCatchAPredator
Swamp wolf, not being sensitive. The definition of belittling is down playing or taking merit away. If you’re taking merrit away from what I’m saying, it’s belittling. If the methods worked then they’re clearly successful so for you to say it won’t get you paid down there, well it does up here. For someone to state you can’t catch them in those spots and in that way, I’m showing that it is possible and don’t rule out that way.

Some beavers that are in real thick cover don’t mind sticks and fencing like that, something with an open bank and no vegetation, there’s no way a beaver would pass through.

Property owner says that he’s had people in there twice, and before used to call the old property owner who used to trap it to come help him. Property has been managed for a while up until I got there, I just had a better price and produced faster results

I'm not interested in arguing with you (Boco has consumed enough of my time with that..lol)...because we are discussing two different scenarios in seperate parts of the Country. Your methods won't work at most locations here.....sorry that you feel that is belittling to you...but they will not.

Beavers in "real thick cover" still know to avoid certain situations once they have been exposed to sloppy, crude trapping methods.


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Re: For Nuisance Beaver..Is It Better??? [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7908447
07/18/23 01:53 PM
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No heckling here! If you can do that and be successful keep on doing it and laughing at those who cant! And don’t think I haven’t tried that and been successful. But in my current reality, it is rare for something like that to work. Why? Because someone already caught the first 5 in sets like that, and what remains are the last two, and you might as well stand there playing the tambourine as set that up. But I would most certainly do it if it was an option, and until they are taught otherwise it is an option!

Your methods are effective and good for your situation, and I have used them a lot in a past life, but the way I operate now they just result in frustration and wasted trips.

Re: For Nuisance Beaver..Is It Better??? [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7908501
07/18/23 04:04 PM
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There are a bunch of sets that are used to take beaver under ice that are deadly for taking educated nuisance beaver in summer.


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Re: For Nuisance Beaver..Is It Better??? [Re: Boco] #7908605
07/18/23 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
There are a bunch of sets that are used to take beaver under ice that are deadly for taking educated nuisance beaver in summer.

Please share...I'm all ears and eyes.....


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Re: For Nuisance Beaver..Is It Better??? [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7908621
07/18/23 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
Originally Posted by Boco
There are a bunch of sets that are used to take beaver under ice that are deadly for taking educated nuisance beaver in summer.

Please share...I'm all ears and eyes.....



Bait poles with snares/conis and H frame coni’s in deep water channels.

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Re: For Nuisance Beaver..Is It Better??? [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7908636
07/18/23 07:21 PM
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I've tried every tree species over the years that I've seen beaver have gnawed on here as a beaver attractor...sweetgum, blackgum, willow, red maple, tulip poplar, bay, myrtle bush, pine, cypress, various oak species. Unfortunately, they didn't create enough attraction to interest a beaver close to it.....or to make him swim around it until snared. I wished that worked here, especially in summer.

Deep water BGs do work, if I could keep turtles out of em in the summer. Plus, it seems deeper the BG...the bigger the snapper.


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Re: For Nuisance Beaver..Is It Better??? [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7908656
07/18/23 07:49 PM
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You are welcome to come north and learn.


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Re: For Nuisance Beaver..Is It Better??? [Re: Boco] #7908662
07/18/23 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
You are welcome to come north and learn.

I'd have to bring your easy to catch beaver back here for some of those methods to work.

Thanks for the invite, though!!!


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Re: For Nuisance Beaver..Is It Better??? [Re: Boco] #7908819
07/18/23 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
One set I have used with success on beavers that have been educated to bodygrips is what i call the diversion set.
I use the bodygrip to divert the beaver into a strategically placed foothold.
Works like a charm.
I might have a pic of it somewhere.

I have done that with a snare right next to the 330. They get hung up in the snare and then stick their head in the 330 a few seconds later.
I can't help but enjoy how disappointed those smart aleck beavers must have felt when they realized that they did not outsmart me again.

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Re: For Nuisance Beaver..Is It Better??? [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7908969
07/19/23 08:39 AM
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Been there Carl...sleepless nights.... pulling what's left of my hair out....what ever it takes to gettem caught.

Re: For Nuisance Beaver..Is It Better??? [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7909125
07/19/23 12:50 PM
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About all I did for the first 5+ years of business was clean up.

If a site has been pressured.

[I always place some sets up and down stream from the site.
Always in a natural drive location. Or/ and some big flashy curiosity set with lots of appeal if I can get far enough away.
Most often they will bug out.
Had one that holed up for a month in a storm retention vault. She only came out because we flushed the system.

I never use a mound set. Beaver just don’t do that here this time of year.
If there is a old “original mound” i dress that up using a small amount of fresh otter crap that I have collected from the docks and froze. Disadvantage is the possibility of otter

If any lure is used it is a call lure, beaver plus, away for the main area and in a area using the wind to my advantage.
Wood chipper doesn’t seem to be over used here
Or it is sweet fragrant raccoon lure. Lure is placed 5+ feet behind the set
Small sets that only a beaver would see.
Sometimes a less then drop of mink or other gland added to try and throw them off


One thing I have notice at most sites, beaver are less square shy the farther from the water.

Beaver main diet here this time of year is blackberry and pond Lille, some will start eating corn about mid aug.
I look for the tunnels through the blackberries/corn, they are using (or that look promising) and set on those
There will usually be a opening in the middle of the patch I call the restaurant.
I have to use a cage on land, I stuff that in the hole at the restaurants door.
The cage is dipped and grasses on the floor

(Body grip and padded footholds legal under special permit. BG’s fully submerged. Cages allowed without permit. 24 hr check time on all)

Beaver have poor eyesight. How are they finding that stick under the ice in the dark, or the body grip in their channel that they had been using?
I believe beaver can smell under water. When they are under water, they have a bubble of air around their nose.

I have a bucket of very thin speed dip that l “white wash” my traps, stakes, supports, cages bla bla bla all the time


Best investments I have made in beaver trapping are marshrat boat, 4 wheeler and a quality drone.

The boat gives me a “ Beavers eye look”
The drone give me a look up and down the drainage and helps me find the best restaurants in town





Re: For Nuisance Beaver..Is It Better??? [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7909129
07/19/23 12:59 PM
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Lots of good info Vinke.
The best investments a nuisance beaver trapper can make here is small light canoe and a good set of chest waders.
You need to get way back away from the dam/culvert/road to make good blind sets. The best blindsets are in deep water in channels and paydirt is the den entrance and the channells leading to them.
Rookie trappers need to study a few beaver house and ponds after the water is drained so you know where and what to feel with your feet/feed hook for making sets in deep water.
Chest waders are also necessary for removing dams/debris from culverts in a lot of cases
Chest waders are also necessary when removing beaver in urban areas.They allow you to take the beaver far from the prying eyes of the public,in submerged sets in channels.

I once took 12 beaver out of an area in North Bay,where they were coming down and plugging a culvert in the North bay railyard.
There were boardwalks all around in the swamp where people walked dogs,and the local college professors took student ecologists to do studys on the beaver.
I put on the chest waders and walked all the beaver channels in the big cattail swamp and set all the runs coming out of the big house with multiple sets in deep water.
Set and checked just before sunrise because of all the people that used the area.

There was a write up in the local paper about two weeks later-the headlines were "where did the beavers go"?
They interviewed the professor from the college and he said that sometimes whole colonys move for no known reason,lol.

My boss showed me the headlines when I was dropping off my paperwork,we all had a pretty good laugh.

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Re: For Nuisance Beaver..Is It Better??? [Re: Boco] #7909137
07/19/23 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
Lots of good info Vinke.
The best investments a nuisance beaver trapper can make here is small light canoe and a good set of chest waders.
You need to get way back away from the dam/culvert/road to make good blind sets. The best blindsets are in deep water in channels and paydirt is the den entrance and the channells leading to them.
Rookie trappers need to study a few beaver house and ponds after the water is drained so you know where and what to feel with your feet/feed hook for making sets in deep water.


If all else fails, i drain the swamp a walk it with my gps plotting locations.

It is amazing the road system they will construct in a created area.
Start the dam then start digging channels.
I was on a property that they dug a channel 200 yard to the trees. If the dam got a foot of water over it you never know it was there from shore.


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Re: For Nuisance Beaver..Is It Better??? [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7909187
07/19/23 01:59 PM
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Some very good info Vinke and Boco!!


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Re: For Nuisance Beaver..Is It Better??? [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7909210
07/19/23 02:21 PM
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Vinke's methods is better than my let's go wading method for finding those channels. When the hat floats you found it, lol.


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Re: For Nuisance Beaver..Is It Better??? [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7909740
07/20/23 07:24 AM
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All i got out of this is yankee beaver's are stupid and southern beaver's are not which i already knew, lol.


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Re: For Nuisance Beaver..Is It Better??? [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7909770
07/20/23 08:29 AM
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There are stupid beaver in the South. I’ve caught them and if I caught them, they were most definitely stupid.

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