Most single actions now come with transverse bar, except i believe the new single actions with an old fashion firing pin. Top 2 are rugers. Top .45 lc which can be loaded past .44 mag specs. Old vaquero. Stainless in a .44 super blackhawk and next is a pietta traditions in .45 lc

the Max PSI for 45lc ruger/tc only loads is 32,000psi that is max set by the powder manufacturers it isn't a Saami load

44 mag is 36,000psi saami that means every single gun chambered 44mag can take 36000psi guns like your Super blackhawk are a stout built 44mag or 45lc

the Saami for 45lc is 14,000psi but because the Ruger is a 44 mag designed gun bored and barreled to 45cal the outer dimensions are the same you have less metal remaining in the 45 so you don't take it quite to the same as 44mag but get close.

the 44mag case was also intended for that pressure and 45 cases weren't unless your buying something like Star line brass that has been tested to 44mag pressures.


Ruger added the transfer bar in your top picture starting in 1972
and you could send in your earlier guns to have it added

my new-frontier clone was a West German clone form the 50s

the first Blackhawk I hunted with was pre 72 and hadn't gone back for the transfer bar
My super blackhawk is a later model and has the transfer bar like yours.

And Your point is?

it is dangerous to go >4000psi over and already HOT load

so saying it can be loaded past 44mag loads is not really true , I guess anything can be done once but not a good idea at all.

the same gun in 44mag vs 45mag get very close but you retain more strength in the 44mag because you bore less out of the cylinder
and the 44mag is rated for 4000psi more by Saami than the max for the 45lc Ruger and TC only loads.

Well, i figured u were getting to that but i have spoken with many ruger experts who disagree with you and also a few ammo producers as the old vaquero are specifically listed for ruger only loads and plus p etc. I would takebtheir word and expertise on this... Period. Because they are liable among other things. Although i probably wouldnt risk it since i have a sbh. IF i had a need i would.

Nice collection

Green County Pete is spot on with the maximum pressures, specifically for your large frame Colt SAA Clones. The Only Authority of the 45 Colt who can be trusted is Elmer Kieth, John Taffin, and Brian Pearce. I would never encourage anyone, from one Ruger expert to another, to load anything 45 Colt until they know the Three Tiers of the 45 Colt and which Clones qualify for each Tier. Elmer Kieth tried time after time to make the 45 Colt perform like the 44 magnum (that never existed at the time) so thats why and how he invented the 44 Magnum, and when found so, he proved how dangerous Hot Roding the 45 Colt in a revolver really is. I still remember back when in the 1970s an old timer told once told me “If you want to hot rod your 45 Colt, get a 44 magnum.” So I took his advice. Green County Pete’s point is that he is giving you valuable advice that exceeding or suggesting to anyone to exceed the 45 Colt more than 32k PSI in any heavy frame vaquero is false, irresponsible, and dangerous. If you decide to shoot it irresponsibly, make sure nobody is around you when you do.

I never understood over loading any firearm. Makes more sense to buy a bigger gun instead of loading a 22 hornet to 223 speeds.

https://hodgdonreloading.com/rldc/

Not overloaded just getting all she'll give ya

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