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Re: Beaver Foothold Jaw Placement [Re: Shakeyjake] #7912048
07/23/23 11:45 PM
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Re: Beaver Foothold Jaw Placement [Re: Shakeyjake] #7912388
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You can never guarantee a front or back foot catch on a beaver.Setting shallow will get back feet from time to time.It often happens when a beaver does not get caught on the approach but gets caught leaving a set.
I never seen a drowned beaver wring off a front foot.I use positive drowning systems only for beaver in footholds.

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Re: Beaver Foothold Jaw Placement [Re: Boco] #7912415
07/24/23 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
You can never guarantee a front or back foot catch on a beaver.Setting shallow will get back feet from time to time.It often happens when a beaver does not get caught on the approach but gets caught leaving a set.
I never seen a drowned beaver wring off a front foot.I use positive drowning systems only for beaver in footholds.

I agree with this. If I set for front in shallow water I still get back feet. I think they are getting caught leaving the set location. My last trouble beaver I caught was by the front foot. Had a cement block at the bottom of my drowner and that big bugger drug it up to the bank. You could tell by the holes dug in the bottom that he was at the end of the cable. You definitely need good weight to hold them.

Re: Beaver Foothold Jaw Placement [Re: Boco] #7912551
07/24/23 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
You can never guarantee a front or back foot catch on a beaver.Setting shallow will get back feet from time to time.It often happens when a beaver does not get caught on the approach but gets caught leaving a set.
I never seen a drowned beaver wring off a front foot.I use positive drowning systems only for beaver in footholds.


Of course front foot set will sometimes get a back. I suppose in an absolute sense it is also true that a deep water back foot set will get a front, but it is so rare for me that I don’t remember the last time, if it has happened. So I can [almost guarantee a back foot target setup wont get a front. Crazy stuff happens on rare occasions, so I wont say never. I will say never to catching a coyote in a body grip at the bottom of a 6 foot deep beaver run. Thats a hard never. I think.

Re: Beaver Foothold Jaw Placement [Re: loosanarrow] #7912581
07/24/23 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by loosanarrow
Originally Posted by Boco
You can never guarantee a front or back foot catch on a beaver.Setting shallow will get back feet from time to time.It often happens when a beaver does not get caught on the approach but gets caught leaving a set.
I never seen a drowned beaver wring off a front foot.I use positive drowning systems only for beaver in footholds.


Of course front foot set will sometimes get a back. I suppose in an absolute sense it is also true that a deep water back foot set will get a front, but it is so rare for me that I don’t remember the last time, if it has happened. So I can [almost guarantee a back foot target setup wont get a front. Crazy stuff happens on rare occasions, so I wont say never. I will say never to catching a coyote in a body grip at the bottom of a 6 foot deep beaver run. Thats a hard never. I think.

Never caught a coyote in a bodygrip, I did drown one in a spillway set when in high school though. Yeah you will occasionally get a hind foot when setting shallow for a front foot, if I know the water is shallow for a hind foot drowning set I will be more careful on my trap placement to try and insure a front foot, but it is never 100%. Pretty good on spillway sets though. I catch more incidental hind feet on castor mound sets, but then again if I am making a castor mound myself instead of setting blind where beaver are using like a dam spillway, I will be making sure I set it where the deepest water is available, so I am not as particular about targeting specifically front feet.

The only time I have ever found a front foot in a trap is one time when the pond froze over leaving only enough open water for the beaver to stick his foot in the trap and not enough for him to go under the ice and down the drowner. I still suspect he would have managed to break the ice and go down it before wringing off if a bobcat hadn't came along and removed him from my trap first. I've caught tripod beaver, but I can never recall tripoding one myself. I don't use weights often, mostly use stakes on the deep end of the drowner, but when I do use a weight I figure 50# minimum. I did have a big beaver pull up 50# of window weights and be sitting on the bank one time, learned not to use smooth weights that will roll on a hard bottom.

Re: Beaver Foothold Jaw Placement [Re: Boco] #7912639
07/25/23 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Boco
You can never guarantee a front or back foot catch on a beaver.Setting shallow will get back feet from time to time.It often happens when a beaver does not get caught on the approach but gets caught leaving a set.
I never seen a drowned beaver wring off a front foot.I use positive drowning systems only for beaver in footholds.

This has always stumped me in shallow water so how do you maximize the front foot catch I’m about 50/50 in shallow water and I know you catch more beavers in a couple weeks than I’ve caught in my life

Re: Beaver Foothold Jaw Placement [Re: Shakeyjake] #7912717
07/25/23 08:21 AM
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To maximize the chance of snagging a beaver by the front foot I bed the trap level with the bottom,and build a small berm out in front of the trap when constructing the set.
This gets the beaver walking BEFOR he encounters the trap.


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Re: Beaver Foothold Jaw Placement [Re: Boco] #7912959
07/25/23 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
To maximize the chance of snagging a beaver by the front foot I bed the trap level with the bottom,and build a small berm out in front of the trap when constructing the set.
This gets the beaver walking BEFOR he encounters the trap.


Thank you sir makes plenty of sense to me

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