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Re: Marijuana and Massive Increase in Mental Illness [Re: drasselt] #7914494
07/27/23 08:18 PM
07/27/23 08:18 PM
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On a bright note, recreational weed will be legal in Minnesota one week from today. And, in a hold my beer and watch this moment, the bill eliminates any repercussions for children to partake. They can't legally purchase, but they have eliminated all the legal consequences of possessing or using, if you are a minor. What could, possibly, go wrong?


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Re: Marijuana and Massive Increase in Mental Illness [Re: trapperkeck] #7914497
07/27/23 08:22 PM
07/27/23 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by trapperkeck
On a bright note, recreational weed will be legal in Minnesota one week from today. And, in a hold my beer and watch this moment, the bill eliminates any repercussions for children to partake. They can't legally purchase, but they have eliminated all the legal consequences of possessing or using, if you are a minor. What could, possibly, go wrong?


You could learn a trade and avoid college debt?


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just put your ear to the ground , and follow along

Re: Marijuana and Massive Increase in Mental Illness [Re: drasselt] #7914516
07/27/23 08:41 PM
07/27/23 08:41 PM
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I think people should be able to make bad choices as well as good ones. Its called freedom.

In 1937 the surgeon general told congress that marijuana made black men rape white women. True story. So Congress banned it and began a campaign to demonize its use. a lot of lies have been fed to us since. also a fact.

I SUSPECT that the organized crime gangs helped to keep it and other drugs illegal to keep profits up. They lost billions when the Volstead act was repealed. Needed a new drug to keep business going. The smugglers, routes, and distribution networks were already established.

its even a bigger business now. Judges, lawyers, court forced rehab at users expense, DEA, private for profit prisons, loss of rights, on and on and on. Drug prohibition is big business and needs to end.

FACT, anyone that wants any drug, anywhere in our country, has no trouble getting it. Prohibition is a complete failure and only serves to promote more corruption from the local traffic cop all the way up to federal legislators.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Marijuana and Massive Increase in Mental Illness [Re: yukonjeff] #7914521
07/27/23 08:49 PM
07/27/23 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by yukonjeff
pot is harmless. Much more so than every other drug including chewing tobacco and cigarettes, and of course alcohol.

State after state are voting on the legalization of cannabis. Even conservative states are. So that means most of the country dont buy into the false narrative that cannabis is dangerous.


Saying that pot is ok because it's less harmful than alcohol is kind of like saying it's ok to cut off a finger because it's better than cutting off 2 fingers.
Yes state after state is legalizing dope but we also have drag queen story hour for the kids and rainbow flags all over and all other manner of cultural decline in state after state. Legal pot is just one more sign of the decline. Here when they legalized dope it was the Dutch as in the Netherlands that wrote that ballot initiative and bought and paid for that victory. Why because they were already in the dope business up to their red eyeballs so they could step right in and get the ball rolling. I'm not sure now how much of the dope profits in AK still go to Amsterdam but I'm thinking plenty. This is the same bunch that won't wear fur because they're too evolved and so burn the muskrats they kill to keep them from ruining their dikes and flooding them out. Not only that but when crap like legal pot makes it on the ballot every manner of leftwing kook comes out to vote it in so there are down ballot problems as well when they vote for their leftwing comrades. Now we have a purple state and the antis trappers are breathing down our neck more and more. Alaska is changing so trappers have get back is their dopey mantra. Is AK going lefty because of legal dope? Well it's sure not helping! I don't care if you smoke pot or not I just don't like dope stores all over and in your face. Sends a bad message to the kids. Kinda like drag queens in the park sends a bad message to kids. AK had it so you could grow your own in your house before, I wish it was still that way.


you can vote your way into socialism, but you will have to shoot your way out.
Re: Marijuana and Massive Increase in Mental Illness [Re: Providence Farm] #7914526
07/27/23 08:52 PM
07/27/23 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
Have you ever read the warning on the back of a can of welding rods. Sounds worse than what you came up with for pot. Also all those things can be said for alcohol but your not for making it illegal.

As far as your Democrat supporters at church. Thay support the woman's right to murder her child. That much different than supporting people's rights to consumers substances. It's far from killing another human.


If you were for baning alcohol, fast food/sweets and sodas and pain pills I would give your stance more respect. But to pick out pot and say the others that also cause as much or more harm takes away creditable.

Lots of things cause harm and are bad for you. Heck how many die in auto accidents. We should ban private ownership of vehicals. After all if it saves just one life.


Red Herrings. Welding rods contribute much more good than bad. So do cars. So do guns. Dope doesn't except possibly in limited circumstances like cancer.


you can vote your way into socialism, but you will have to shoot your way out.
Re: Marijuana and Massive Increase in Mental Illness [Re: drasselt] #7914535
07/27/23 08:57 PM
07/27/23 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by drasselt
Originally Posted by yukonjeff
pot is harmless. Much more so than every other drug including chewing tobacco and cigarettes, and of course alcohol.

State after state are voting on the legalization of cannabis. Even conservative states are. So that means most of the country dont buy into the false narrative that cannabis is dangerous.


Saying that pot is ok because it's less harmful than alcohol is kind of like saying it's ok to cut off a finger because it's better than cutting off 2 fingers.
Yes state after state is legalizing dope but we also have drag queen story hour for the kids and rainbow flags all over and all other manner of cultural decline in state after state. Legal pot is just one more sign of the decline. Here when they legalized dope it was the Dutch as in the Netherlands that wrote that ballot initiative and bought and paid for that victory. Why because they were already in the dope business up to their red eyeballs so they could step right in and get the ball rolling. I'm not sure now how much of the dope profits in AK still go to Amsterdam but I'm thinking plenty. This is the same bunch that won't wear fur because they're too evolved and so burn the muskrats they kill to keep them from ruining their dikes and flooding them out. Not only that but when crap like legal pot makes it on the ballot every manner of leftwing kook comes out to vote it in so there are down ballot problems as well when they vote for their leftwing comrades. Now we have a purple state and the antis trappers are breathing down our neck more and more. Alaska is changing so trappers have get back is their dopey mantra. Is AK going lefty because of legal dope? Well it's sure not helping! I don't care if you smoke pot or not I just don't like dope stores all over and in your face. Sends a bad message to the kids. Kinda like drag queens in the park sends a bad message to kids. AK had it so you could grow your own in your house before, I wish it was still that way.


Marijuana turns you gay. And your fingers fall off.

Re: Marijuana and Massive Increase in Mental Illness [Re: drasselt] #7914541
07/27/23 09:00 PM
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Speak for yourself. YJ ain't gay and he's still got all 10 far as I know. But you may have a point; get stoned and cut your finger off with a table saw or something. That sure wouldn[t surprise me.

Last edited by drasselt; 07/27/23 09:02 PM.

you can vote your way into socialism, but you will have to shoot your way out.
Re: Marijuana and Massive Increase in Mental Illness [Re: drasselt] #7914556
07/27/23 09:06 PM
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It's still illegal no matter what your state decides. It's Federally illegal but the Feds don't want to pursue it. I'm sure one day the Feds will give in and make it legal.

Re: Marijuana and Massive Increase in Mental Illness [Re: silkyplainscoyot] #7914564
07/27/23 09:15 PM
07/27/23 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by silkyplainscoyot
It's still illegal no matter what your state decides. It's Federally illegal but the Feds don't want to pursue it. I'm sure one day the Feds will give in and make it legal.

Or, use it as a reason to confiscate your firearms.


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Re: Marijuana and Massive Increase in Mental Illness [Re: drasselt] #7914700
07/28/23 01:56 AM
07/28/23 01:56 AM
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Originally Posted by drasselt
Originally Posted by yukonjeff
pot is harmless. Much more so than every other drug including chewing tobacco and cigarettes, and of course alcohol.

State after state are voting on the legalization of cannabis. Even conservative states are. So that means most of the country dont buy into the false narrative that cannabis is dangerous.


Saying that pot is ok because it's less harmful than alcohol is kind of like saying it's ok to cut off a finger because it's better than cutting off 2 fingers.
Yes state after state is legalizing dope but we also have drag queen story hour for the kids and rainbow flags all over and all other manner of cultural decline in state after state. Legal pot is just one more sign of the decline. Here when they legalized dope it was the Dutch as in the Netherlands that wrote that ballot initiative and bought and paid for that victory. Why because they were already in the dope business up to their red eyeballs so they could step right in and get the ball rolling. I'm not sure now how much of the dope profits in AK still go to Amsterdam but I'm thinking plenty. This is the same bunch that won't wear fur because they're too evolved and so burn the muskrats they kill to keep them from ruining their dikes and flooding them out. Not only that but when crap like legal pot makes it on the ballot every manner of leftwing kook comes out to vote it in so there are down ballot problems as well when they vote for their leftwing comrades. Now we have a purple state and the antis trappers are breathing down our neck more and more. Alaska is changing so trappers have get back is their dopey mantra. Is AK going lefty because of legal dope? Well it's sure not helping! I don't care if you smoke pot or not I just don't like dope stores all over and in your face. Sends a bad message to the kids. Kinda like drag queens in the park sends a bad message to kids. AK had it so you could grow your own in your house before, I wish it was still that way.


The people of Alaska voted and they overwhelmingly voted in favor of decriminalizing a substance that was harmless. I voted in favor as well. One stipulation was it had to be a Alaskan resident owner for the business. Makes perfect sense and keeps the money here.

To say cannabis users are drag queens and are responsible for the left wing movement is not at all correct. There are people on both sides just like there are gay drinkers and construction worker drinkers.

Also you dont seam to have a problem with a bar on every corner, what about the poor kids ?

You should start a thread about fourth Avenue and how alcoholics degenerated the whole downtown of Anchorage, or 2nd ave in FBX if you want to see "increased mental health problems" lol

Re: Marijuana and Massive Increase in Mental Illness [Re: drasselt] #7914717
07/28/23 05:37 AM
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Re: Marijuana and Massive Increase in Mental Illness [Re: drasselt] #7914719
07/28/23 05:43 AM
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The question isn't rather or not its harmless. The question is why do you want a government that tries to parent you?


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Marijuana and Massive Increase in Mental Illness [Re: drasselt] #7914726
07/28/23 06:11 AM
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Danny I've always thought that marijuana should have been regulated about like the grass in a pasture, but .gov went there and let the genie out of the bottle. Your not going to get it back in. If you legalize drugs now, you legitimize drugs. We could drop all regulations concerning drugs but you know as well as I that's not going to happen. Legal weed is big money for the funding of the bureaucracy and their "parenting" ways in other matters.
In my discussion with Providence Farm, I'm trying to make him understand that he is promoting a destructive behavior(sin) and that's the devil's job not the believers. Even you as an atheist with knowledge of the faith can probably understand that.

Re: Marijuana and Massive Increase in Mental Illness [Re: drasselt] #7914727
07/28/23 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by drasselt
Originally Posted by yukonjeff
pot is harmless. Much more so than every other drug including chewing tobacco and cigarettes, and of course alcohol.

State after state are voting on the legalization of cannabis. Even conservative states are. So that means most of the country dont buy into the false narrative that cannabis is dangerous.


Saying that pot is ok because it's less harmful than alcohol is kind of like saying it's ok to cut off a finger because it's better than cutting off 2 fingers.
Yes state after state is legalizing dope but we also have drag queen story hour for the kids and rainbow flags all over and all other manner of cultural decline in state after state. Legal pot is just one more sign of the decline. Here when they legalized dope it was the Dutch as in the Netherlands that wrote that ballot initiative and bought and paid for that victory. Why because they were already in the dope business up to their red eyeballs so they could step right in and get the ball rolling. I'm not sure now how much of the dope profits in AK still go to Amsterdam but I'm thinking plenty. This is the same bunch that won't wear fur because they're too evolved and so burn the muskrats they kill to keep them from ruining their dikes and flooding them out. Not only that but when crap like legal pot makes it on the ballot every manner of leftwing kook comes out to vote it in so there are down ballot problems as well when they vote for their leftwing comrades. Now we have a purple state and the antis trappers are breathing down our neck more and more. Alaska is changing so trappers have get back is their dopey mantra. Is AK going lefty because of legal dope? Well it's sure not helping! I don't care if you smoke pot or not I just don't like dope stores all over and in your face. Sends a bad message to the kids. Kinda like drag queens in the park sends a bad message to kids. AK had it so you could grow your own in your house before, I wish it was still that way.


Truth spoken, here. Moral decline is real, and it’s happening quickly, just another piece of the pie…. Sad


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Re: Marijuana and Massive Increase in Mental Illness [Re: ] #7914834
07/28/23 09:06 AM
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That article is sad. Yes inhaling Any smoke is bad for you don't need a study to know that. How many pot smokers also smok or vape in their study. I didn't see that broken down. Then they try to linke pot as the most uses drug. Well what's your criteria. Miss use of prescription drugs and drinking far exceed pot but leave that out. Just another junk corolation equals confirmation artical where thay picked the data inputed to get desired results.

J station you seem to want to be judgmental on any believer that has a different opinion than you and take a condescending your not believing right stand. We are not called to be judgmental or the morality police. We ask called to share the gospel and live our life as an example to others. The rest is God's job. No where does it say judge others and controls their behavior for their own good. Or give more power to the government that says Christians are a threat..
Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face.

It is ashamed so many that claim to be pro gun pro constitution only think that extends to what they approve of.

Re: Marijuana and Massive Increase in Mental Illness [Re: Providence Farm] #7914845
07/28/23 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm



That article is sad. Yes inhaling Any smoke is bad for you don't need a study to know that. How many pot smokers also smok or vape in their study. I didn't see that broken down. Then they try to linke pot as the most uses drug. Well what's your criteria. Miss use of prescription drugs and drinking far exceed pot but leave that out. Just another junk corolation equals confirmation artical where thay picked the data inputed to get desired results.

J station you seem to want to be judgmental on any believer that has a different opinion than you and take a condescending your not believing right stand. We are not called to be judgmental or the morality police. We ask called to share the gospel and live our life as an example to others. The rest is God's job. No where does it say judge others and controls their behavior for their own good. Or give more power to the government that says Christians are a threat..
Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face.

It is ashamed so many that claim to be pro gun pro constitution only think that extends to what they approve of.




Most of the usual whiners here are not actually pro-gun or pro-Constitution. They only care about their deer rifle and only care about the Constitution (which they've never read) when it suits them.

Re: Marijuana and Massive Increase in Mental Illness [Re: ] #7916826
07/30/23 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by J Staton
Danny I've always thought that marijuana should have been regulated about like the grass in a pasture, but .gov went there and let the genie out of the bottle. Your not going to get it back in. If you legalize drugs now, you legitimize drugs. We could drop all regulations concerning drugs but you know as well as I that's not going to happen. Legal weed is big money for the funding of the bureaucracy and their "parenting" ways in other matters.
In my discussion with Providence Farm, I'm trying to make him understand that he is promoting a destructive behavior(sin) and that's the devil's job not the believers. Even you as an atheist with knowledge of the faith can probably understand that.



Revelations 22 11

11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.

If you want more Roman's should cover it.

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