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NM & AZ Wolf Introduction #7929302
08/16/23 07:24 AM
08/16/23 07:24 AM
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Manitoba
Shakeyjake Offline OP
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Manitoba
Just read this in American Trapper. Doesn’t the DNR do game population studies and base their hunting tag availability on that? Or do the powers that be not care because it mentions that science is being discarded? A few pages before I see this….
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I see a bright future in the coming years for the skilled trappers in New Mexico!


Wind Blew, crap flew, out came the line crew
Re: NM & AZ Wolf Introduction [Re: Shakeyjake] #7929319
08/16/23 07:44 AM
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They are already there.... no reason to introduce more trouble.

Re: NM & AZ Wolf Introduction [Re: MChewk] #7929332
08/16/23 08:11 AM
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Shakeyjake Offline OP
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Originally Posted by MChewk
They are already there.... no reason to introduce more trouble.

That’s what the ranchers and others said. I’d think the DNRs game studies would support this too.


Wind Blew, crap flew, out came the line crew
Re: NM & AZ Wolf Introduction [Re: Shakeyjake] #7929336
08/16/23 08:14 AM
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Unfortunately, science has left the building in many DNR decisions. Just look at the Wisconsin wolf "plan" that was proposed.

Re: NM & AZ Wolf Introduction [Re: Shakeyjake] #7929341
08/16/23 08:20 AM
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There goes THAT neighborhood.

Osky



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Re: NM & AZ Wolf Introduction [Re: Shakeyjake] #7929352
08/16/23 08:38 AM
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Tree Huggers got them introduced in Wisconsin and are the ones that keep fighting the control of the population of them. Even Farmers are subject to allowing them to feed on the Cattle or be prosecuted.


God please keep they 19 fallen UBB miners out of trouble up there.
Re: NM & AZ Wolf Introduction [Re: Shakeyjake] #7929389
08/16/23 09:55 AM
08/16/23 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Shakeyjake
Originally Posted by MChewk
They are already there.... no reason to introduce more trouble.

That’s what the ranchers and others said. I’d think the DNRs game studies would support this too.

Read in too = Grey Wolf Projects New Mexico. They spent over a million on a = disaster of a project! I read it a long time ago. Cant sware to every detail but something like. They tried to locate Grey Wolf dens and add captive raised Grey Wolf pups to the den. IF you can find it. Read about that mess

Re: NM & AZ Wolf Introduction [Re: Shakeyjake] #7929390
08/16/23 09:58 AM
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If a wolf falls in the dessert, doe any hear it….


Ant Man/ Marty 2028
just put your ear to the ground , and follow along

Re: NM & AZ Wolf Introduction [Re: Vinke] #7929392
08/16/23 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Vinke
If a wolf falls in the dessert, doe any hear it….

Nope. But they may find it with the tracking collar OR the chip implanted in its ear ! LoL !

Re: NM & AZ Wolf Introduction [Re: Shakeyjake] #7929402
08/16/23 10:15 AM
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I also read where they are going to release some captive red wolves In NC. It sounds like NC has a red wolf population now. I guess they feel they have to Increase the numbers.


The forum Know It All according to Muskrat
Re: NM & AZ Wolf Introduction [Re: steeltraps] #7929406
08/16/23 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by steeltraps
Originally Posted by Vinke
If a wolf falls in the dessert, doe any hear it….

Nope. But they may find it with the tracking collar OR the chip implanted in its ear ! LoL !


It would be fun to attach it to a javalina
The study folk would think the thing went crazy


Ant Man/ Marty 2028
just put your ear to the ground , and follow along

Re: NM & AZ Wolf Introduction [Re: Shakeyjake] #7929407
08/16/23 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Shakeyjake
Just read this in American Trapper. Doesn’t the DNR do game population studies and base their hunting tag availability on that? Or do the powers that be not care because it mentions that science is being discarded? A few pages before I see this….
[Linked Image]
I see a bright future in the coming years for the skilled trappers in New Mexico!

You really think you can catch wolves in cage traps?

Re: NM & AZ Wolf Introduction [Re: Shakeyjake] #7929508
08/16/23 01:17 PM
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There is no science.Its all politics


Buck(formely known as Zandra)
Re: NM & AZ Wolf Introduction [Re: Shakeyjake] #7929512
08/16/23 01:20 PM
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I will send you all the wolves you want.

Re: NM & AZ Wolf Introduction [Re: Shakeyjake] #7929520
08/16/23 01:28 PM
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I love having wolves on the trapline.
They are beneficial to wildlife if kept in balance thru management.
Extremely harmful and destructive if not.


Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: NM & AZ Wolf Introduction [Re: Boco] #7929590
08/16/23 03:14 PM
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The Red Wolf is a good point. Its a = mixed up coyote dog wolf. That is no longer pure wolf. Afew in North Carolina and a few in Texas. BUT liberals and tree huggers keep try to bring them back down south. I know where they tried to put them!!! They were simply told. That want work. Locals will just kill them ! Look at that = Secret disaster in the Smoke Mtns with the Red Wolves!! They did that crap again and told know one. If is kill your livestock? SSS = Shoot Shovel Shutup! LoL!

Re: NM & AZ Wolf Introduction [Re: Shakeyjake] #7929592
08/16/23 03:17 PM
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Chris, more than a few in NC according to my sources.

Re: NM & AZ Wolf Introduction [Re: MChewk] #7929608
08/16/23 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by MChewk
Chris, more than a few in NC according to my sources.

I don’t doubt the #. Its just = they want to move them down south?? Nope. Deep South Southern wont stand for that. They will just kill them

Re: NM & AZ Wolf Introduction [Re: steeltraps] #7929627
08/16/23 03:59 PM
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You let a landowner think a pack took down a buck he was targeting and there won’t be DNA of wolves anywhere in the Deep South, lol.

Re: NM & AZ Wolf Introduction [Re: wy.wolfer] #7929697
08/16/23 06:30 PM
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Shakeyjake Offline OP
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Originally Posted by wy.wolfer
[/quote]You really think you can catch wolves in cage traps?


Why use a cage? When they hire a guy to deal with a problem, the rules sometimes change.
I was happy to see more tracks on the line last weekend. Let the games begin.


Wind Blew, crap flew, out came the line crew
Re: NM & AZ Wolf Introduction [Re: Shakeyjake] #7929786
08/16/23 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Shakeyjake
Just read this in American Trapper. Doesn’t the DNR do game population studies and base their hunting tag availability on that? Or do the powers that be not care because it mentions that science is being discarded? A few pages before I see this….
[Linked Image]
I see a bright future in the coming years for the skilled trappers in New Mexico!

I haven't read the article but yes seizures are done frequently. There's no hunting wolves here. It's depreciation tag only. We have strict rules if we trap one. Trapping is only allowed on private land or unless your native. The antis keep winning here unfortunately.
The wolves originally placed in the Gila have expanded their territory mainly north and west.

Re: NM & AZ Wolf Introduction [Re: Shakeyjake] #7929869
08/16/23 10:26 PM
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DNR's for the most part are not in our favor anymore. I've said it before and I'll say it again. Any apex predator that's not properly managed is a agenda. Plain and simple, were gettin screwed.


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
Re: NM & AZ Wolf Introduction [Re: Shakeyjake] #7929919
08/16/23 11:54 PM
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Our Game and fish is incredibly pro hunter trapper angler. If I remember right it was the feds and anti's that brought them.
Our new game commissioner has done and said some very questionable stuff.

Our houndsmen are now in jeopardy. I should make a thread on that but have not really studied it. I do know 200+ anti's have submitted questions and comments for a new proposed rule

Last edited by adam m; 08/16/23 11:56 PM.
Re: NM & AZ Wolf Introduction [Re: Catch22] #7930016
08/17/23 07:48 AM
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Shakeyjake Offline OP
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Originally Posted by Catch22
DNR's for the most part are not in our favor anymore. I've said it before and I'll say it again. Any apex predator that's not properly managed is a agenda. Plain and simple, were gettin screwed.


I guess they don’t show up at your conventions either? Most places I know of, we’re on the same team, and after talking to one yesterday they’re a good source for info, and stuff that’s getting approved, local goings on…etc.


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