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Re: Deer. From Neighboring Properties [Re: Wanna Be] #7933310 08/21/23 04:19 PM 08/21/23 04:19 PM
Joined: Apr 2009 South Ga - Almost Florida Swamp Wolf trapper
Swamp Wolf trapper Joined: Apr 2009 South Ga - Almost Florida	Originally Posted by Wanna Be Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf A deer can and will easily move a mile or more just overnight. A lot of folks have a concept or idea in their head that deer (bucks) don't travel like that, except during the rut. I've known many bucks that bedded a mile or more from their main food source, even during summer. Learned that since using cameras back in the early 90s (CamTrakkers). Deer home ranges are odd shaped and all vary. Some are long and linear...others are more circular. If you're getting consistent pics of a mature buck that is arriving at your baited area/food source an hour or more after dark and he's leaving an hour or more before daylight......well, dont get your hopes up that your gonna ever see him in legal shooting light. You might, but odds are against you. I have photo documentation of 2 mature bucks that were on my place a few years back. One got his pic taken at 10 pm (he was at my bait EVERY NIGHT for weeks in October..always leaving about an hour b4 light)...next morning he was killed by neighbor...1.1 straightline miles away...walking across a pasture....alone...no does. The other buck was similar. Got his pic at 5 AM....neighbor shot him at 830AM same morning. ....1.3 miles away....in a burned clearcut.....also alone. My property was thicker, had many more food plots, and way more bait that either of the neighbors. There were more doe groups on my place too. So, go figure. A mile or 2 is nothing to a whitetail. Just get that thought out of your head. They stroll that far casually and daily.... Yes I hunt mature deer. Yes mature deer will sometimes have some nice antlers. So yeah, I’m an antler hunter. If you ever find a deer you want to take and concentrate solely on that deer it changes you. I have yet to determine if it’s for the better or worse, but when it all comes together you truly appreciate the hunt and those antlers. Watching deer grow and mature is something I enjoy and I realize it’s not for everyone. If I just wanted to “fill my tags” with any legal deer I could do it in 2 days…10 does and 2 bucks. We do shoot does, we have to for management purposes, but I may not kill a buck this year or the next. We have mature deer that won’t score and those will be taken out, I may shoot one or get one patterned for someone else. So all those jealous or angry at antler hunters, just remember anytime you kill a nice deer, someone somewhere, was watching and letting that deer grow hoping they’d have a chance at it. They ain’t born with huge antlers and it takes a good 4.5-6.5 years to get that way. I agree^^^^ Also I'll add that it is a good thing when adjoining neighbors all get along and even share their experiences and camera pics. I'm blessed to currently enjoy this setup. Six landowners (includes about 35 +/- people that hunt here) controlling approximately 4000 acres....most of it is river bottomland and upland timbered tracts. We all communicate and dont hide anything. We dont have any formal meetings, but willingly share info. I have two properties located in this loose "co-op"....400 aces and 866 acres....one tract on each side of river. Last edited by Swamp Wolf; 08/21/23 04:20 PM. Reason: Spelling error Thank God For Your Blessings! Never Half-Arse Anything! Resource Protection Service

Re: Deer. From Neighboring Properties [Re: SGT. C] #7933311 08/21/23 04:25 PM 08/21/23 04:25 PM
Joined: Feb 2014 Ky J jbyrd63 trapper
jbyrd63 trapper J Joined: Feb 2014 Ky	Aging deer downsize their home range and have fewer social connections October 06, 2022 White tail bucks around 8 years of age do very little rutting. In fact they just want to be left alone. My 12 point was 8 1/2 The 225 inch deer killed in my co last year was living in a 30 acre spot. Traveling from a thicket to a creek for water. Guy had been after him for 4 years. It will be on the cover of N American whitetail later this year . Reason they are hard to find is THEY DON"T travel much so no one sees them ........ Well and of course most don't live that long !!!! Don't take my word for it . Dig a little dozens of studies show data to back me up....... Last edited by jbyrd63; 08/21/23 04:27 PM.

Re: Deer. From Neighboring Properties [Re: jbyrd63] #7933313 08/21/23 04:29 PM 08/21/23 04:29 PM
Joined: Apr 2009 South Ga - Almost Florida Swamp Wolf trapper
Swamp Wolf trapper Joined: Apr 2009 South Ga - Almost Florida	Originally Posted by jbyrd63 Aging deer downsize their home range and have fewer social connections October 06, 2022 White tail bucks around 8 years of age do very little rutting. In fact they just want to be left alone. My 12 point was 8 1/2 The 225 inch deer killed in my co last year was living in a 30 acre spot. Traveling from a thicket to a creek for water. Guy had been after him for 4 years. It will be on the cover of N American whitetail later this year . Reason they are hard to find is THEY DON"T travel much so no one sees them ........ Don't take my word for it . Dig a little dozens of studies show data to back me up....... I'm not disagreeing with what the research has shown about many older bucks reducing their home range. But, all older bucks don't do this in a manner that ANY hunter could ever hope to figure out. Thank God For Your Blessings! Never Half-Arse Anything! Resource Protection Service

Re: Deer. From Neighboring Properties [Re: SGT. C] #7933316 08/21/23 04:31 PM 08/21/23 04:31 PM
Joined: Feb 2014 Ky J jbyrd63 trapper
jbyrd63 trapper J Joined: Feb 2014 Ky	Entire point was he wanted deer to move in and stay . With acres your hunting you don't have to worry.

Re: Deer. From Neighboring Properties [Re: jbyrd63] #7933328 08/21/23 04:41 PM 08/21/23 04:41 PM
Joined: Apr 2009 South Ga - Almost Florida Swamp Wolf trapper
Swamp Wolf trapper Joined: Apr 2009 South Ga - Almost Florida	Originally Posted by jbyrd63 Entire point was he wanted deer to move in and stay . With acres your hunting you don't have to worry. NO DEER is gonna move in and stay on any smaller property (or most larger properties 100%.) Their home range needs vary seasonally. You can hold doe family groups with good food sources and moderate cover...but holding bucks is simply not possible...Even with heavy cover, bucks will use any given property seasonally. You gotta be there when they do....and not approach this concept because it was printed in a magazine....thinking those bucks never leave your property. Thank God For Your Blessings! Never Half-Arse Anything! Resource Protection Service

Re: Deer. From Neighboring Properties [Re: Ohio Wolverine] #7933367 08/21/23 05:56 PM 08/21/23 05:56 PM
Joined: Oct 2013 East of the Mason-Dixon Line DelawareRob trapper
DelawareRob trapper Joined: Oct 2013 East of the Mason-Dixon Line	Originally Posted by Ohio Wolverine Originally Posted by Chancey True. Same thing goes for rifle hunters too. I don't know about other places, but down here, the State gives the bowhunters a month of hunting prior to gun season. IMHO Bow hunters have ruined hunting as it was. The all mighty antlers are what's most important . Just like government , screw the population , I want big buck antlers and will do anything to get them. Power and glory is all that matters, screw the little people they're just in the way! Lease up all the property around them , charge $20,000.00 to even more to hunt a week on a few acres where the deer are basically trained to be at certain spots . I just love it when I hear about such setups , and a neighbor gets a nuisance or crop damage permit . and shoots those Big bucks and dumps them in a ditch. Hunting was for survival , not for the now days profit . Those things have nothing to do with bowhunting. Also, you love it when people kill deer and illegally dump them in a ditch? That is wonton waste and is a crime. Around here anyway, even on a crop damage tag. I do agree that “antler hunters” aren’t making hunting easier. Trophy shaming is a huge problem. If you have a tag for it and it’s a legal deer to shoot, go ahead and shoot it. If you want to hunt 3.5+ year old deer and that is what you like, then go for it. Sorry to hear the hunting sucks around you, I hope you are involved and are working to change it. Stop over cooking your meat! It isn’t gamey, it’s over cooked! Gordon Ramsey, maybe…

Re: Deer. From Neighboring Properties [Re: SGT. C] #7933392 08/21/23 06:21 PM 08/21/23 06:21 PM
Joined: Jan 2017 Marion Kansas Y Yes sir trapper
Yes sir trapper Y Joined: Jan 2017 Marion Kansas	If someone has a legal tag for it and that's what they want to shoot go for, and if someone looks or talks down on them for it they ain't much a sportsman. Now if it's a club or the landowner makes stipulations that's different.

Re: Deer. From Neighboring Properties [Re: Yes sir] #7933433 08/21/23 07:04 PM 08/21/23 07:04 PM
Joined: Apr 2009 South Ga - Almost Florida Swamp Wolf trapper
Swamp Wolf trapper Joined: Apr 2009 South Ga - Almost Florida	Originally Posted by Yes sir If someone has a legal tag for it and that's what they want to shoot go for, and if someone looks or talks down on them for it they ain't much a sportsman. Now if it's a club or the landowner makes stipulations that's different. This...yep^^^ Thank God For Your Blessings! Never Half-Arse Anything! Resource Protection Service

Re: Deer. From Neighboring Properties [Re: Yes sir] #7933452 08/21/23 07:18 PM 08/21/23 07:18 PM
Joined: Oct 2013 East of the Mason-Dixon Line DelawareRob trapper
DelawareRob trapper Joined: Oct 2013 East of the Mason-Dixon Line	Originally Posted by Yes sir If someone has a legal tag for it and that's what they want to shoot go for, and if someone looks or talks down on them for it they ain't much a sportsman. Now if it's a club or the landowner makes stipulations that's different. Yup Stop over cooking your meat! It isn’t gamey, it’s over cooked! Gordon Ramsey, maybe…

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