Re: ATF Coming For Gun Powder?
[Re: anton]
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I’m an FFL and thankfully all my local ATF agents are good folks. I recently spent six hours in inspection with them going over all my paperwork and while it was friendly and I did fine, a question did come up about black powder, and I found it odd because I operate out of a home that’s registered as a business don’t have a storefront and they still asked. He had that I’m sorry I asked that question look in his eyes when he asked me, so I’m wondering… Did you dot all the i's and cross all the t's?
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Re: ATF Coming For Gun Powder?
[Re: anton]
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yeah, I.m good... I try and do everything correct and call them OFTEN with questions if I'm even slightly unsure. I don't doubt you a bit but I wonder what those friendly agents would do if you didn't, even as an oversight. I imagine they'd be apologetic as they brought the full force of the federal government against you. That agency needs to be abolished.
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Re: ATF Coming For Gun Powder?
[Re: danny clifton]
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What I was taught is that when the bill of rights was written, well regulated militia was not what most think. Militia was all civilian. Every male over 16. Well regulated was the practice of electing officers. The supreme court has been saying, finally, bearing arms is an individual right. What kind of man even applies for a job with an agency tasked to violate our rights and when accepted swears an oath to uphold those rights? Thats not how I describe "good folks".
Our government is behind all this reinterpretation by the ATF. Not enough votes in congress to change the law, not enough support among the states to amend the constitution, so this is the new tactic.
With all the jobs available today what kind of man goes along with this?
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: ATF Coming For Gun Powder?
[Re: anton]
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I’m an FFL and thankfully all my local ATF agents are good folks. I recently spent six hours in inspection with them going over all my paperwork and while it was friendly and I did fine, a question did come up about black powder, and I found it odd because I operate out of a home that’s registered as a business don’t have a storefront and they still asked. He had that I’m sorry I asked that question look in his eyes when he asked me, so I’m wondering… Black powder falls under a completely different set of rules than smokeless powder. Been that way for a loooong time. Much more strict on the storage requirements for real black powder.
Sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand
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Re: ATF Coming For Gun Powder?
[Re: danny clifton]
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09/04/23 08:17 AM
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K91773 , i don't agree with prohibition but have been asking that for a long time. The second amendment protection act in KS makes the enforcement of federal gun law a felony. It makes the sale of home made firearms legal. It makes the manufacture and sale of suppressors legal within the state of KS. Yet the feds have arrested and convicted people of those things. Why is it OK for the feds to quit prosecuting drug sales under state law but firearm law prosecution gets more regulated?
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: ATF Coming For Gun Powder?
[Re: danny clifton]
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09/04/23 05:09 PM
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K91773 , i don't agree with prohibition but have been asking that for a long time. The second amendment protection act in KS makes the enforcement of federal gun law a felony. It makes the sale of home made firearms legal. It makes the manufacture and sale of suppressors legal within the state of KS. Yet the feds have arrested and convicted people of those things. Why is it OK for the feds to quit prosecuting drug sales under state law but firearm law prosecution gets more regulated? What is, because we let them?
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