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Mountain Lions in MO
#7951966
09/16/23 11:54 AM
09/16/23 11:54 AM
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Joined: Mar 2018
Missouri
HayDay
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Missouri
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Few days back was talking to a guy who believes he has lost 3 or 4 high value newborn calves to a mountain lion. One was spotted in the same area, and pattern of kills suggests big cat. Among other things, one calf was cached up in a tree.
What are his options? SSS not a good option if cat has a tracking collar as some do. Not wanting to get into any imperial entanglements, just wants the killing to stop.
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Re: Mountain Lions in MO
[Re: HayDay]
#7951986
09/16/23 12:09 PM
09/16/23 12:09 PM
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Joined: Dec 2006
williamsburg ks
danny clifton
"Grumpy Old Man"
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"Grumpy Old Man"
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williamsburg ks
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show pictures. skin out the neck on those calves. lions usually cover what they don't eat like bobcats do.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Mountain Lions in MO
[Re: HayDay]
#7951994
09/16/23 12:30 PM
09/16/23 12:30 PM
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Joined: Dec 2011
MT
snowy
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MT
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The next time he loses a calf need to check the neck, to see if there is a broken neck and look for any open wounds from the back of neck. That is where to check if you think it is a cat.
I don't believe I ever seen a cat kill without that glaring indication.
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Re: Mountain Lions in MO
[Re: HayDay]
#7952022
09/16/23 01:44 PM
09/16/23 01:44 PM
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Joined: Dec 2006
williamsburg ks
danny clifton
"Grumpy Old Man"
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"Grumpy Old Man"
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williamsburg ks
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i hunted lions some when I was younger in CO. Never seen anything pulled into a tree.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Mountain Lions in MO
[Re: HayDay]
#7952023
09/16/23 01:45 PM
09/16/23 01:45 PM
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Joined: Jul 2011
Custer SD
arcticotter
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Custer SD
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You put a small magnet on the collar to turn it off. It’s that simple I’ve been around a lot of cats the past 20 years and never seen anything up a tree
Last edited by arcticotter; 09/16/23 01:46 PM.
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Re: Mountain Lions in MO
[Re: HayDay]
#7952057
09/16/23 02:44 PM
09/16/23 02:44 PM
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Joined: Apr 2009
South Ga - Almost Florida
Swamp Wolf
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South Ga - Almost Florida
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Not all tracking is done with collars.....
How big of a tracking device is in your phone?
Reckon one can be put under the skin....???
Careful there.....
Last edited by Swamp Wolf; 09/16/23 02:45 PM.
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Re: Mountain Lions in MO
[Re: HayDay]
#7952058
09/16/23 02:44 PM
09/16/23 02:44 PM
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Joined: Dec 2006
williamsburg ks
danny clifton
"Grumpy Old Man"
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"Grumpy Old Man"
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williamsburg ks
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With pictures, shooting a livestock killer would not get anyone a ticket.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Mountain Lions in MO
[Re: danny clifton]
#7952062
09/16/23 02:54 PM
09/16/23 02:54 PM
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Joined: Dec 2009
The Hill Country of Texas
Leftlane
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The Hill Country of Texas
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i hunted lions some when I was younger in CO. Never seen anything pulled into a tree. Oh yeah I'd like to spend a day trying to cut a track cause this could get interesting.
�What�s good for me may not be good for the weak minded.� Captain Gus McCrae- Texas Rangers
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Re: Mountain Lions in MO
[Re: HayDay]
#7952087
09/16/23 03:48 PM
09/16/23 03:48 PM
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Central, SD
Law Dog
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Probably an unwanted gift from SD ours seem to go to other places. They might not even be protected I’d do some research before I got to far ahead of myself.
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Re: Mountain Lions in MO
[Re: HayDay]
#7952096
09/16/23 04:08 PM
09/16/23 04:08 PM
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meadowview, Virginia
EdP
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meadowview, Virginia
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Mtn Lions protected in Mo - linkIn Missouri, mountain lions are protected under the state's Wildlife Code. The rules allow someone to kill a mountain lion only if they are “attacking or killing livestock or domestic animals, or if they are threatening human safety.” The state also requires documenting such cases by contacting a conservation agent and surrendering an intact carcass and pelt within 24 hours.
Last edited by EdP; 09/16/23 04:11 PM.
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Re: Mountain Lions in MO
[Re: HayDay]
#7952099
09/16/23 04:12 PM
09/16/23 04:12 PM
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Joined: Dec 2006
St. Louis Co, Mo
BigBob
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St. Louis Co, Mo
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Contact the Conservation Enforcement Agent for that county, and get a depradation permit, they will instruct you on what to do with the carcass, I seriously doubt you will be allowed to dispose of it on your own or keep it.
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Re: Mountain Lions in MO
[Re: EdP]
#7952175
09/16/23 06:03 PM
09/16/23 06:03 PM
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Joined: Jan 2014
Virginia
52Carl
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Virginia
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Mtn Lions protected in Mo - linkIn Missouri, mountain lions are protected under the state's Wildlife Code. The rules allow someone to kill a mountain lion only if they are “attacking or killing livestock or domestic animals, or if they are threatening human safety.” The state also requires documenting such cases by contacting a conservation agent and surrendering an intact carcass and pelt within 24 hours. "Threatening human safety." seems pretty broad and open to interpretation to me. Is it still yet breathing? Y'all know what to do.
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Re: Mountain Lions in MO
[Re: EdP]
#7952187
09/16/23 06:24 PM
09/16/23 06:24 PM
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Oklahoma
Ken Smith
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Oklahoma
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Mtn Lions protected in Mo - linkIn Missouri, mountain lions are protected under the state's Wildlife Code. The rules allow someone to kill a mountain lion only if they are “attacking or killing livestock or domestic animals, or if they are threatening human safety.” The state also requires documenting such cases by contacting a conservation agent and surrendering an intact carcass and pelt within 24 hours. It's the same in Oklahoma. Document the missing calves with the wildlife department and clean them up when you see one. Or hire some dog guys to run that thing into a tree and then have the wildlife department come get him
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