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Re: For those that eat healthy diets. [Re: WI Outdoors] #7957030
09/23/23 10:22 PM
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The key is......poop more oftener...


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Re: For those that eat healthy diets. [Re: WI Outdoors] #7957036
09/23/23 10:32 PM
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You can shun modern medicine and avoid the doc because you are afraid of what they might find, or suggest, or afraid of needles, or whatever. But consider that they could save your life, and you arent required to get meds that they might suggest. Under most insurance programs, annual checkups are basically free. If not for yourself, do I for those you love and depend on you,


Ive been sayin yes sir all day at work, Ive been sayin yes maam at home
Re: For those that eat healthy diets. [Re: WI Outdoors] #7957041
09/23/23 10:42 PM
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I look forward to getting my results its a challenge to me to see where Im at.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

Jerry Herbst
Re: For those that eat healthy diets. [Re: ] #7957055
09/23/23 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Savell
^^^ so much for shiner bock sacrilege


As much as I love Texas Savell, Shiner bock is some of the nastiest stuff I've ever put in my mouth. I'm biased though because I've been drinking lonestar light and keystone light for 25 years.

If the goal is to lose weight Mando, water and lots of it is your best friend. Drink a gallon a day at least and lay off eating anything white (sugar, potatoes, pasta, white bread, etc). You'll lose wait slowly at first, but then it will just drop off quickly. Dr. Savell and Chancey will be back to check on you in a month!


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Re: For those that eat healthy diets. [Re: WI Outdoors] #7957069
09/24/23 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Mando
Do you track your macros? I've been cutting way back on sugar and carbs. I haven't done any macro tracking but am considering.

You dont need to track anything.

The easy way is to avoid grains, especially rice and potatoes and bread and of course beer. Those are the high carb foods.

Dont drink pop and other sugar drinks. You can pretty much eat anything else, and as much as you want.

Eat all the meat, fish, seafood and fowl you want. Make sure you eat plenty of fat with it. Bacon and eggs are very good for you. (Dont worry about the no salt and no cholesterol scam)

DO salt your food, its an important electrolyte.

Sugar is pure carbs and so is fruit unless its a grapefruit or lemons. Have at those.

Stay away from seed oils too . They are bad and cause inflammation in your joints. Use olive oil, coconut oil, or animal fat to cook.

Follow this advice and you will lose weight fast and get rid of high blood pressure, clogged arteries and fatty liver and reverse any type II diabetes setting in. Also greatly reduce the chance of a heart attack or stroke.

Of course, you can have a cheat day so its not the end of the world.



You see we can get away with eating anything we want until about the age 45 then its time to watch your diet or pay with your health later.

Re: For those that eat healthy diets. [Re: WI Outdoors] #7957102
09/24/23 06:39 AM
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What yukonjeff said. I was about 60 when my a1c got high. Had to pee every 30 minutes or so and drank water till it was uncomfortable but was still thirsty. Metformin is poison. Constant diarrhea. Started taking an insulin shot every night. Then one every morning too plus another at each meal. Did some reading, talked to a few others, and the no grain no potato's no sugar, and I got off all those shots. Anti cholesterol drugs are causing type two diabetes. The link is there. Quit worrying about cholesterol. Its a function of your liver. Genetic. Fat helps your body avoid diabetes. In spite of the low fat fad diets heart disease is still the number one cause of death. A little exorcise (trapping) will help a bunch.

The people telling you to eat low fat and take statins for cholesterol are the same people telling you to wear a mask and get more covid shots


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Re: For those that eat healthy diets. [Re: WI Outdoors] #7957105
09/24/23 06:44 AM
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PS avoid stuff like corn oil or vegetable oil like crisco. Olive oil is good. Lard is good. Peanut oil is good. Butter is good. Margarine is poison.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: For those that eat healthy diets. [Re: WI Outdoors] #7957187
09/24/23 09:02 AM
09/24/23 09:02 AM
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I have to watch my blood sugar like a hawk. Im on max dose 1,000 mg 2x daily metformin. Its a side effect of my chemo I take for my CML. Had to work hard to get my A1C to lower. Still over the standard but its finally down.

Potatoes for me are OK, just not fried. Rice OK too but I eat brown not white rice. White bread is bad for me, and absolutely no refined sugar. I eat a ton of veggies and fruit. Lots of whole grains. Very little read meat, lots of chicken and fish. Whole grain pasta is better for me than standard pasta. And I exercise frequently. Keeping my waist line and weight in check is important too. Cant drink alcohol with my daily chemo either.

Ive learned what works for me and what doesnt. Check my blood sugar daily and have for couple years.

Jim

Last edited by jabNE; 09/24/23 09:07 AM.

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Re: For those that eat healthy diets. [Re: WI Outdoors] #7957216
09/24/23 09:49 AM
09/24/23 09:49 AM
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Simple fact a guy cant live on tasteless non nutritious foods, like jab said find what workers for you listen to our Doctors if you dont like their results find different doctors then. First drop the stupid stuff anything with sugar there is enough sugar in stuff without adding sugar to your diet.

Just cutting out raw sugar, pastry, ice cream, pop and candy could make a big difference the amount of sugar in ketchup is staggering so hidden sugar is everywhere read the labels its interesting what you find in your foods.

Lots of new sugar free option now if your into candy many are being made without aspartame but again check the label. Hershey bars come in sugar free peanut butter cups, mints, Werthers has great caramels in 3 flavors that are great. Most chocolates will be high in saturated fats as a trade off.

Just things to consider if youre looking for new ideas I did a ton of research finding ways to embrace the diet suck.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

Jerry Herbst
Re: For those that eat healthy diets. [Re: ] #7957285
09/24/23 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Savell
I aint going to no doctor

That's crazy.

Re: For those that eat healthy diets. [Re: WI Outdoors] #7957299
09/24/23 11:46 AM
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It isnt so much what you eat,it is the amount,and how you cook it.
Soups and stews are very good for you and flavour is great.
I think todays bunch dont partake because it takes time to prepare and cook properly.
Thing is,you can take a day and make up a large batch then freeze in meal size portions.Then just whip up the dumplings when re heating.
Stews and soups have everything good in them,meat veggies legumes etc,anything you want to add,rice pasta,wild greens spices etc. and only taste better when aged in fridge or freezer.

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Re: For those that eat healthy diets. [Re: AJE] #7957303
09/24/23 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by AJE
Originally Posted by Savell
I aint going to no doctor

That's crazy.


Dont let him fool ya
Hes there every week for a hernia check


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Quote of the week ,,,,,,, "he looks simple".

Re: For those that eat healthy diets. [Re: WI Outdoors] #7957305
09/24/23 11:53 AM
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How about a little exercise that would not hurt some folks get moving its beneficial in so many ways even digestive ways.


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Jerry Herbst
Re: For those that eat healthy diets. [Re: WI Outdoors] #7957340
09/24/23 12:58 PM
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I did try and track them well wrote down everything I ate at every meal and any snacks to get a handle on it and find my hidden carbs

I fell into a groove of what I eat regular so I track a lot less

my daily goals are supposed to be

17oz protein
30-50 carbs

fat as long as it isn't crazy I can have

I go over on carbs some times, when you realize what is in vegetable but I don't worry about that

and 3.2-9.6 carbs a day are miller lite , because life is still worth living some I know big splurge by the way a slice of bread is 15-21 carbs


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Re: For those that eat healthy diets. [Re: WI Outdoors] #7957382
09/24/23 01:41 PM
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just do carnivore/no dairy nutrition plan. Red meat, wild fish, beef liver, bacon and eggs....you can eat all you want so there is nothing to track other than you want more fat than protein and zero carbs.. Make beef tallow and use it to bring up the fat content of your red meat and I put it in my coffee. Make the bacon first and then use the bacon fat to make the eggs...I been having 12 ounces of bacon and 7 eggs almost daily for a while now. Think I will make that now.

The only carbs I have are the few in my electrolyte powders and the beef liver...I have around 6-8 ounces of that 5 days a week.

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Re: For those that eat healthy diets. [Re: Marty] #7957775
09/24/23 11:45 PM
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I guess there are dozens of ways to eat healthy!

Bryce

Re: For those that eat healthy diets. [Re: bblwi] #7957787
09/25/23 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by bblwi
I guess there are dozens of ways to eat healthy!

Bryce




People have added issues so they have different diets and goals that require a different meal plan. I know people that take their meds and dont even try to eat right it drive me crazy because it people I care about but its their call.


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Re: For those that eat healthy diets. [Re: WI Outdoors] #7957809
09/25/23 03:35 AM
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Thats True. Most doctors are modern day drug pushers working for big Pharma. They will put you on HBP meds without telling you that you need to change your diet. Statins are a total scam.

They dont want you to get healthy. Thay say eat brown rice, oatmeal, and whole grains is "heart healthy", that's total nonsense. Its full of carbs.

In a nutshell...when you eat sugar, it turns into sugar in your body. When you eat carbs it also turns into sugar in your body. Your body will do one of two things with it. Store it as fat or burn it as energy. If you can burn the carbs you eat everyday, then its no problem. If you have excess it stores it as fat in your body and when it runs out of room in your muscles, it stores the fat in your liver and arteries and other bad places. When a piece of that calcified fat breaks off inside your arteries and blocks the blood flow to your heart, that's a heart attack. It can go to the brain and cause stroke.

And all those problems, (and more) are actually symptom's that come with diabetes from eating too many carbs.

Diabetes is a circulatory disease. it causes your capillaries or smallest veins like in your eyes and fingers and toes to calcify causing your feet and fingers to go numb and cause blindness, and organ failure and other bad things.

But its really not that hard to get healthy if you want too. Just watch what you eat and drink. Pretty simple really. Most doctors are not nutritionist. They were told the same food pyramid lies like we all were.

Re: For those that eat healthy diets. [Re: WI Outdoors] #7957880
09/25/23 08:11 AM
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Some nutrients are essential, meaning your body can't produce them on it's own, and can't convert them from other things you eat. For example-your body can't produce b12-you have to eat it. Your body needs vitamin A, but it can convert beta carotene into vitamin A. (this is how vegans get vitamin A, since vitamin A only comes from animal sources).

There are essential fatty acids (from fats), and essential amino acids (from proteins). But, importantly, there are no essential carbs. A person could never eat a carb in their lifetime and be just fine.

Re: For those that eat healthy diets. [Re: WI Outdoors] #7957888
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This works for me! I have been eating Oatmeal for over 1 year . It's keep my weight in the 170s and I still can fit in a size 33 waist or 34. I eat plain Oatmeal with honey,flax,chia,hemp seeds and alittle cinnamon to give it some flavor.

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