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Re: Game Warden ?? CAN/US
[Re: Osagan]
#7994359
11/14/23 12:50 PM
11/14/23 12:50 PM
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Joined: Apr 2009
South Ga - Almost Florida
Swamp Wolf
trapper
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trapper
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South Ga - Almost Florida
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Just have one question. How can a game warden just walk up to you while hunting and ask to see your license. I have no problem with it but don't he have to have a probable cause to stop you. A cop can not just stop you for driving down the road. Game Wardens are different. Regular law enforcement needs reasonable suspicion or probable cause to interact with you. Game wardens do not. They can check for compliance anytime. 'Check you creel' is the legal verbiage they use. Read your states game laws, you give your 'implied consent' when you voluntarily purchase a hunting or fishing license. If you're engaged in hunting or fishing activities, they can check your creel at any time. Yes^^^this is correct. License checks, creel, and bag limit checks ... The US Supreme Court has ruled on the validity and need for these compliance checks in several cases over the years.
Thank God For Your Blessings! Never Half-Arse Anything!
Resource Protection Service
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Re: Game Warden ?? CAN/US
[Re: Trapset]
#7994364
11/14/23 01:00 PM
11/14/23 01:00 PM
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Joined: Dec 2006
Oregon
beaverpeeler
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trapper
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Oregon
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I get along great with game officers here in Oregon. Many of them are trappers themselves.
Here's my take on it: When I go into a new area and that warden doesn't know me he has to figure out whether I'm a law abiding trapper or one that bends rules. Once they figure that out they know how to treat you. So I'm always polite and go out of my way to make sure they see I fit into the former category.
My fear of moving stairs is escalating!
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Re: Game Warden ?? CAN/US
[Re: Trapset]
#7994365
11/14/23 01:07 PM
11/14/23 01:07 PM
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Joined: Dec 2010
Armpit, ak
Dirt
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trapper
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Armpit, ak
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The last time I got checked, the trooper asked my hunter how much he paid for the guided trip? They recorded the whole interview, which involved a lot of personal and irrelevant questions. Later that winter the troopers reviewed these tapes and tried to bust my boss on some misstatement ( or misinterpretation) of what I said. He also claimed we did not have the paper work we had. I had my hunter take a picture of his paperwork after the trooper left. If you really want to be hassled, be a hunting/fishing guide.
Who is John Galt?
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Re: Game Warden ?? CAN/US
[Re: Trapset]
#7994369
11/14/23 01:13 PM
11/14/23 01:13 PM
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Joined: Dec 2006
Wisconsin
The Beav
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trapper
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Wisconsin
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I have had nothing but good encounters with our COs. In fact I've been an Instructor In the WI DNR warden school.
There was one situation where this female CO got stuck on this property. Well she flagged down the farmer and wanted him to pull her out. He said I'm busy doing some plowing when I get done I'll get you pulled out. She then called a towing service when the tow truck entered the farmers land he turned them away and wouldn't give them permission to to be on his property.
This female warden had a history with screwing over people. She use to sit out on the ice at night and set off your tip ups then wait for the prescribed check time and ticket the fishermen. When we got wind of that we always took the dog with us as a early warning device. She also use to ticket guys for indecent exosphere when they went behind the shack to relive themselves. I think she lost her job do to some DWI tickets.
The forum Know It All according to Muskrat
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Re: Game Warden ?? CAN/US
[Re: gregh]
#7994382
11/14/23 01:49 PM
11/14/23 01:49 PM
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Joined: Apr 2009
South Ga - Almost Florida
Swamp Wolf
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trapper
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South Ga - Almost Florida
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If I remember right in my state a few years ago wardens stoped some duck hunters while they were hunting and wrote them tickets for drugs they found on them while hunting. It went to the state Supreme Court and the duck hunters won because the state had no reason to check them. Due to not observing them with any hunting violations just hunting. If that is what happened...then that Arkansas court did not follow the ruling of the USSC....which is not uncommon these days.
Thank God For Your Blessings! Never Half-Arse Anything!
Resource Protection Service
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Re: Game Warden ?? CAN/US
[Re: Trapset]
#7994389
11/14/23 02:05 PM
11/14/23 02:05 PM
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Joined: Dec 2006
Coldspring Texas
Savell
"Wilbur"
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"Wilbur"
Joined: Dec 2006
Coldspring Texas
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… they’ll turn sideways and block the road on you down here … then smile and ask if you’ve been huntin
.. they run in male breeding pairs.. one to keep smilin at you while the other looks in the back of your truck
Insert profound nonsense here
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Re: Game Warden ?? CAN/US
[Re: Savell]
#7994392
11/14/23 02:12 PM
11/14/23 02:12 PM
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Joined: Apr 2009
South Ga - Almost Florida
Swamp Wolf
trapper
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trapper
Joined: Apr 2009
South Ga - Almost Florida
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… they’ll turn sideways and block the road on you down here … then smile and ask if you’ve been huntin
.. they run in male breeding pairs.. one to keep smilin at you while the other looks in the back of your truck Huntin' on that public land has some extra inconveniences....
Thank God For Your Blessings! Never Half-Arse Anything!
Resource Protection Service
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Re: Game Warden ?? CAN/US
[Re: Osagan]
#7994395
11/14/23 02:15 PM
11/14/23 02:15 PM
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Joined: Jan 2009
Nebraska
Trapset
OP
trapper
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OP
trapper
Joined: Jan 2009
Nebraska
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Just have one question. How can a game warden just walk up to you while hunting and ask to see your license. I have no problem with it but don't he have to have a probable cause to stop you. A cop can not just stop you for driving down the road. Game Wardens are different. Regular law enforcement needs reasonable suspicion or probable cause to interact with you. Game wardens do not. They can check for compliance anytime. 'Check you creel' is the legal verbiage they use. Read your states game laws, you give your 'implied consent' when you voluntarily purchase a hunting or fishing license. If you're engaged in hunting or fishing activities, they can check your creel at any time. Game Wardens can not get around the constitution as far as probable cause goes. However, the court has ruled that the fact you are hunting, or they have reasonable suspicion that you are or were hunting, is probable cause to ask for license etc..
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Re: Game Warden ?? CAN/US
[Re: Dirt]
#7994397
11/14/23 02:20 PM
11/14/23 02:20 PM
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Joined: Sep 2020
Missouri
Osagan
trapper
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trapper
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Missouri
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The last time I got checked, the trooper asked my hunter how much he paid for the guided trip? They recorded the whole interview, which involved a lot of personal and irrelevant questions. Later that winter the troopers reviewed these tapes and tried to bust my boss on some misstatement ( or misinterpretation) of what I said. He also claimed we did not have the paper work we had. I had my hunter take a picture of his paperwork after the trooper left. If you really want to be hassled, be a hunting/fishing guide. I'm not a lawyer but I'm going to say your hunter wasn't obligated to answer any of those questions. Compliance with game laws does not mean you have to waive away your 4th, 5th or 6th amendment rights. The burden of establishing proof of guilt is on law enforcement, not your hunter. I believe if it got past the friendly stage and they were picking at me, I'd be like Danny and ask if I was free to leave or was I being arrested.
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Re: Game Warden ?? CAN/US
[Re: gregh]
#7994403
11/14/23 02:32 PM
11/14/23 02:32 PM
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Joined: Sep 2020
Missouri
Osagan
trapper
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trapper
Joined: Sep 2020
Missouri
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If I remember right in my state a few years ago wardens stoped some duck hunters while they were hunting and wrote them tickets for drugs they found on them while hunting. It went to the state Supreme Court and the duck hunters won because the state had no reason to check them. Due to not observing them with any hunting violations just hunting. Here in Missouri Conservation Agents or game wardens can enforce any law in the state. Drugs, traffic laws, etc............
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Re: Game Warden ?? CAN/US
[Re: Swamp Wolf]
#7994407
11/14/23 02:37 PM
11/14/23 02:37 PM
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Joined: Dec 2006
Coldspring Texas
Savell
"Wilbur"
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"Wilbur"
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Coldspring Texas
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… they’ll turn sideways and block the road on you down here … then smile and ask if you’ve been huntin
.. they run in male breeding pairs.. one to keep smilin at you while the other looks in the back of your truck Huntin' on that public land has some extra inconveniences.... .. around the house ain’t bad… when I go a county up is where the trouble is lol… that warden and his mate in that county is a big deer hunter and patrols hard around his family land … he’ll tell folks they should’ve let a legal deer grow… I had him so mad one time I thought he was going to draw on me lol
Insert profound nonsense here
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Re: Game Warden ?? CAN/US
[Re: The Beav]
#7994409
11/14/23 02:41 PM
11/14/23 02:41 PM
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Joined: Sep 2013
Green County Wisconsin
GREENCOUNTYPETE
trapper
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trapper
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Green County Wisconsin
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I have had nothing but good encounters with our COs. In fact I've been an Instructor In the WI DNR warden school.
There was one situation where this female CO got stuck on this property. Well she flagged down the farmer and wanted him to pull her out. He said I'm busy doing some plowing when I get done I'll get you pulled out. She then called a towing service when the tow truck entered the farmers land he turned them away and wouldn't give them permission to to be on his property.
This female warden had a history with screwing over people. She use to sit out on the ice at night and set off your tip ups then wait for the prescribed check time and ticket the fishermen. When we got wind of that we always took the dog with us as a early warning device. She also use to ticket guys for indecent exosphere when they went behind the shack to relive themselves. I think she lost her job do to some DWI tickets.
was that Jill? I have heard some stories about her
America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
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Re: Game Warden ?? CAN/US
[Re: Trapset]
#7994411
11/14/23 02:42 PM
11/14/23 02:42 PM
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Joined: Dec 2006
williamsburg ks
danny clifton
"Grumpy Old Man"
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"Grumpy Old Man"
Joined: Dec 2006
williamsburg ks
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I will be polite. Answer a few questions, but if the officer starts asking the same ones I am done talking.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Game Warden ?? CAN/US
[Re: The Beav]
#7994417
11/14/23 02:50 PM
11/14/23 02:50 PM
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Joined: Feb 2021
Wisconsin
Mad Scientist
trapper
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trapper
Joined: Feb 2021
Wisconsin
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I have had nothing but good encounters with our COs. In fact I've been an Instructor In the WI DNR warden school.
There was one situation where this female CO got stuck on this property. Well she flagged down the farmer and wanted him to pull her out. He said I'm busy doing some plowing when I get done I'll get you pulled out. She then called a towing service when the tow truck entered the farmers land he turned them away and wouldn't give them permission to to be on his property.
This female warden had a history with screwing over people. She use to sit out on the ice at night and set off your tip ups then wait for the prescribed check time and ticket the fishermen. When we got wind of that we always took the dog with us as a early warning device. She also use to ticket guys for indecent exosphere when they went behind the shack to relive themselves. I think she lost her job do to some DWI tickets.
Miss Heather- she was a smokin hot pain in the arse.
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